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APR Stage 3...booked at Awesome!! (Now With Pics)

Scotty_b said:
Would love to know a rough idea on cost on this as to me APR=very relaible=very very good quality
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Give it a couple of weeks when my car is finished....I believe they will announce price. Worth paying slightly more for the quality and warranty.
The A4 fitted with this kit is superb even on Quattro drivetrain...very smooth and progressive in it's delivery.
 
Just watched there vid, very good. But its looks uber expensive to me! Mind you the inlet mani at $800 looked cheaper than i thought!
 
Ianb said:
Bill
I believe it is a tubular manifold but it comes with a lifetime warranty according to Awesome/Guy Harding in Australia. I've yet to see this variety...seen their cast jobbie which is very high quality.

APR have also released their intake manifold for the TT/S3...supposedly produces excellent results
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Their investment cast lhd exhaust mani is a nice bit of kit from what I've seen.

Over on vortex there's been a flowbench test of intake manifolds, results of which I posted on here, and the APR did flow well, but not the highest. Its an interesting "debate" going on there with certain of the APR employee's and their arrogance of "their's will outperform anyones" intake is funny_as to read. If you believe their hype, they are the only people who can design and make anything go fast, be it their hardware or their tuning & software. :rolleyes:

Dream on - lol
Shame that they as a company, are seen by their public face from these employee's on the vortex forums, as extremely arrogant. Its not a +ve attribute for APR. The products are good in many instances, but their arrogance puts people off I'm sure.
 
ibizacupra said:
Their investment cast lhd exhaust mani is a nice bit of kit from what I've seen.

Over on vortex there's been a flowbench test of intake manifolds, results of which I posted on here, and the APR did flow well, but not the highest. Its an interesting "debate" going on there with certain of the APR employee's and their arrogance of "their's will outperform anyones" intake is funny_as to read. If you believe their hype, they are the only people who can design and make anything go fast, be it their hardware or their tuning & software. :rolleyes:

Dream on - lol
Shame that they as a company, are seen by their public face from these employee's on the vortex forums, as extremely arrogant. Its not a +ve attribute for APR. The products are good in many instances, but their arrogance puts people off I'm sure.
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You maybe right Bill from what you have observed on Vortex I know they have been slow to react to UK customer's needs and the fact that it was Guy Harding who developed the RHD hardware needed.
APR are a big concern now perhaps some of which has led to arrogance.
I can certainly think of a UK tuning company who could also be associated with the same arrogance. Trouble is in the tuning world companies competing against each other breeds arrogance that "Our products are the best ot there". It's healthy for competion I suppose comparing products.
APR seem to have the monopoly in the US.

It is interesting looking back at the various options when I rang around being quoted £10k for the "best kit out there claim". How do they sell these kits?

APR seem to have a nice product (fingers crossed). At least it's well proven since 2000 and comes with warranty on the all important manifold.
 
I would fully expect the quality of the APR hardware to be as you say, very good, and the price will reflect that (and a bit no doubt)

If some of them were'nt so up themselves it would reflect far better than it currently does. I know several other outfits who also claim there's is best, and then proceed to diss the competition, and thats just plain sad and when I hear it, is an instant switch off. If the products are good, then they will speak for themselves. There are plenty of knowledgeable people around in the industry from a whole assorted number of companies & all with strengths & weaknesses.

How do they sell them?
Some people are more into "perceived brands" and marketting materials, and not looking as in depth at the many other options... who knows. some people insist on Red Lable jeans, some just want jeans. go figure, each to their own.

I was pricing up a kit only yesterday for a guy, and the total for the parts & fitting came in to a hefty £8500, but included internals, lsd, uprated valves/springs, porting head, rods, big BT etc.......... The price of achieving 450+bhp aint going to be cheap if done well & properly.

I look forward to seeing it in the flesh.. its been along time coming... and the $64,000 question of its end price to customers.
 
ibizacupra said:
I would fully expect the quality of the APR hardware to be as you say, very good, and the price will reflect that (and a bit no doubt)

If some of them were'nt so up themselves it would reflect far better than it currently does. I know several other outfits who also claim there's is best, and then proceed to diss the competition, and thats just plain sad and when I hear it, is an instant switch off. If the products are good, then they will speak for themselves. There are plenty of knowledgeable people around in the industry from a whole assorted number of companies & all with strengths & weaknesses.

How do they sell them?
Some people are more into "perceived brands" and marketting materials, and not looking as in depth at the many other options... who knows. some people insist on Red Lable jeans, some just want jeans. go figure, each to their own.

I was pricing up a kit only yesterday for a guy, and the total for the parts & fitting came in to a hefty £8500, but included internals, lsd, uprated valves/springs, porting head, rods, big BT etc.......... The price of achieving 450+bhp aint going to be cheap if done well & properly.

I look forward to seeing it in the flesh.. its been along time coming... and the $64,000 question of its end price to customers.
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Thanks Bill.....I 'm looking forward to this....long wait.
Won't be anywhere in your league but there again it won't be no slouch hopefully!
I will initially be playing safe with output only due to longevity reasons and my everyday use to work. Full rebore rebuild later unless I source a LCR 225 lump.
Rods and pistons definately a consideration if I go for a higher output.

How's your testing at Combe going? Better lap times?

Have you got a link to the Vortex thread.?

Ian
 
just saw this kit and it looks lovely to say the least, i was after a gt28rs not sure now lol unless the price is right, but at least they say it can be fitted in a day and it comes with a full manual to fit yourself which has to be good esp as some garages out there would certainly say it would take longer to do, will be watching this space!

Also on the gt28rs they said about the actuator not being up to the job so what have they used instead then??
 
Stretch79 said:
o on the gt28rs they said about the actuator not being up to the job so what have they used instead then??
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I took it to mean not what they wanted for their N75 control, as opposed not up to it, which it clearly is for the masses of yanks who fit GT28's onto their various setups
 
I will post some details this week when I drop my car off and take some pics.

The actuator is custom to their requirements for mapping I assume as Bill mentions. Don't know why and what affect the original item makes.

Does anyone have the GT2871 R fitted as per fitted to APR's TT set in Oz?
I assume the day fitting time will be if the engine's out.?
 
Ianb said:
I will post some details this week when I drop my car off and take some pics.

The actuator is custom to their requirements for mapping I assume as Bill mentions. Don't know why and what affect the original item makes.

Does anyone have the GT2871 R fitted as per fitted to APR's TT set in Oz?
I assume the day fitting time will be if the engine's out.?
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wouldnt say that you'd need the engine out as that would take more than a day for sure!!
 
YerMother said:
Well this is a GT28RS based turbo setup! Songmans is IHI!

The turbo is good for high 300s depending on setup/boost etc.
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That is correct but the reason I have waited for this conversion is because it comes as a complete with every nut bolt washer etc etc and has a very high quality manifold developed for RHD that comes with the added benefit of warranty against failure and cracking.
The mapping is well proven in the US as it's been around for some time. All reports I have read over the recent years on Vortex is that the kit is of excellent quality and it produces the goods. It can safely run on stock internals up to 345PS utilising the APR mapping.

I will be more than happy with these figures as it takes my currrent set up into new territory. I am told that the turbo is easily in it''s comfort zone as to achieve these figures it is only running 1.1 bar.
Looking forward to getting the job done!!
 
yea... sounds like a good kit

3995+vat so £4700

can get me one in 2 weeks

capable of 500bhp if internals are done (not sure how true that is!?)

HoocH
 
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