The last place I went to which was a ford dealership they wouldn't do anything on price or fix stuff they said if you don't buy it someone else will. Maybe it's just me lol
Seems to be the way of it now. I've had the same experience. Nothing knocked off for buying it outright without a trade in either. I think some cars they know will just sell. And if you don't buy it, a less picky muppet will walk in off the street and take it as is.