Hi Mate, I've just done a bit of a refurb on my mother in laws 6 year old faded red corsa.
Having spoken to Tim at clean your car I washed, clayed and then cleaned and got rid of the oxidised paint with Carlack 68. I am absolutely blown away by the results of the stuff - even more so once a nice coat or 3 of wax has been applied.
Looks like it's just left the showroom - serious browny points.
Best bit - absolute doddle to use, non-abrasive, and a sealant too.
Hope this helps
Having spoken to Tim at clean your car I washed, clayed and then cleaned and got rid of the oxidised paint with Carlack 68. I am absolutely blown away by the results of the stuff - even more so once a nice coat or 3 of wax has been applied.
Looks like it's just left the showroom - serious browny points.
Best bit - absolute doddle to use, non-abrasive, and a sealant too.
Hope this helps
Ive got the full mequiers kit..Clay bar,wash mit,shampoo and high resin wax and polish...
Would that be alright to use on it..
Would that be alright to use on it..
if its that faded then you may need some thing a bit more abrasvie as mentioed above, could try the megs 3 step on a budget which may work. as you've already got the polish and wax you'd only need the first step or DC1. can get it from halfrauds too.
The carlack will get rid of the oxidised paint without being abrasive - as I say I was mega impressed - 3 step approach will do a similar job but alot more elbow grease and I don't think the effect will be quite as good. The carlack was only 7 quid, so it's cheaper than pretty much anything else too - especially when you consider it's an all in one.
The paint on Leons or SEATs in general is really thin, yellows and reds the most,
thats why it fades, its not oxidised
Full spray job is the only way to recover it truely!
Paint renovation as mentioned above will make it look slightly better, but won't fix the problem.
this question has been asked before within the Care Care & Detailing section and detailers have replied back saying that with a detail the colour should be restored as they machine polish it and the rest of the stuff they do, personally i dont know
thanks alot everyone
im looking for a polish and wax now
is this anygood?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/P21s-Concours...ZViewItem?_trksid=p1638.m118#ebayphotohosting
im looking for a polish and wax now
is this anygood?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/P21s-Concours...ZViewItem?_trksid=p1638.m118#ebayphotohosting
If you don't fancy forking out to get the paint professionally seen to, I would suggest that you do a search for some on-line detailing forums. You will get more answers than you can shake a stick at . . . .
Anything is possible, with hard work you can seriously improve the overall condition of your paint by hand, unfortunately only a machine polish will renovate your paint to it's former glory. No matter how bad you think your paint has become
I would be very surprised if it was too far gone
As previously stated you could have a peek at some of the posts in the car care section
Anything is possible, with hard work you can seriously improve the overall condition of your paint by hand, unfortunately only a machine polish will renovate your paint to it's former glory. No matter how bad you think your paint has become
I would be very surprised if it was too far gone As previously stated you could have a peek at some of the posts in the car care section
Yep P21 is not bad for the money, in my opinion not a very durable wax.
Seen better for around the same money, durability and excellent finish on properly prepared paint you won't go wrong with . . . . Collinite 476 or 915 x2 coats will see you through winter no problem
It sounds like the paint has oxidised, a good scrub up should see it back to its original brightness.
As said , the Carlack (AKA: Klass AIO) is very good, its a chemical cleaner, not an abrasive, so the chance of addingswirls/marring is minimal.
Topped off with some Collinite, you'd be laughing watching the water just fall off the car.
Clean Your Car have this combo on offer at the moment, complete with applicators & Microfibres http://www.cleanyourcar.co.uk/complete-detailing-kits/collinite-476s-carlack-kit/prod_408.html
As said , the Carlack (AKA: Klass AIO) is very good, its a chemical cleaner, not an abrasive, so the chance of addingswirls/marring is minimal.
Topped off with some Collinite, you'd be laughing watching the water just fall off the car.
Clean Your Car have this combo on offer at the moment, complete with applicators & Microfibres http://www.cleanyourcar.co.uk/complete-detailing-kits/collinite-476s-carlack-kit/prod_408.html
Good call Jace. That's exactly what I've done now with 4 cars - Flat Red Corsa (Mother-in-Laws), Light Silver Blue Metallic Laguna (Wifes), Zenith Grey Leon FR (mates), and Candy Leon FR (mine).
Washed and Clayed, then treat with Carlack 68, and topped with a couple of thin coats of Collinite 845. All look awesome - especially the Corsa actually, which had been neglected when I started with it and was badly oxidised. Couple of months on still looks great and a doddle to keep clean now.
Washed and Clayed, then treat with Carlack 68, and topped with a couple of thin coats of Collinite 845. All look awesome - especially the Corsa actually, which had been neglected when I started with it and was badly oxidised. Couple of months on still looks great and a doddle to keep clean now.
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Just to add another product into the mix, Dodo Juice Lime Prime is also very effective on oxidised paint. It's a cleaner/polish and will leave a nice glossy finish ready for a coat of wax, easy to use by hand or machine.
Give the car a wash, clay, lime prime then top with a wax.
Give the car a wash, clay, lime prime then top with a wax.
The paint on Leons or SEATs in general is really thin, yellows and reds the most,
thats why it fades, its not oxidised
Full spray job is the only way to recover it truely!
Paint renovation as mentioned above will make it look slightly better, but won't fix the problem.
The paint on Seats is not at all thin. From experience and memory the average is between a 100 and 130 microns, paint + clearcoat, which is on par with all other VAG cars. It is the top couple of microns of the yellow that is oxidised which a decent machine polish will remove, problem is you will probably need to do the whole car but it will be a lot cheaper than a re-spray which is not what is required.
IIRC the Ovni yellow is single stage.
Hi All
Im cross posting this from a reply I posted the Mk1 Leon forum as its equally relevent in this thread, and I'd also like you guys comments on the paint on my car and what I can do to best preserve what Ive got left!
Anyway, from experience Im pretty certain Onvi Yellow IS lacquered, and unfortunately it may well get a whole lot worse than mere fading
My 01 Onvi Yellow Cupra faded badly, and around a year ago the bonnet / roof (which were most faded) started to peel in little patches, as if acid had been spilled on it. There was still yellow paint underneath, it was just an opaque white crispy layer that was peeling off.
Here's what mine started doing a few months ago
Piccie here
Anyway, its got worse since then seemingly spreading like a skin disease that would only be rectified with a respray anyway, so when I washed it last week (for the first time in a while), I thought I'd put the hose on the flaked bits and see what happened.
This is the result...
Youtube video
If that's not lacquer then what it is?!
Bear in mind this was just a normal garden hose, not a pressure washer! This is the end result...
Pic1
Pic2
Pic3
Im now left with a completely "peeled" bonnet apart from a few bits around the front grill which obviously dont get so much sunlight so havent faded/rotted as badly. Ive also since completely peeled the roof and most of the rear boot lid. Whats left is a very dull matt finished paint, but at least its one that is all one colour and doesn't look like its had acid thrown all over it.
Ive used some T Cut on it and it does come up to a shine, but not quite as good as the original lacquered, so I might speak to a bodyshop to see if I can get it buffed and then possibly re-lacquered.
I wouldnt recommend going this route unless your car gets as bad as mine did, but for me its actually a lot better now than it was, and I might even get away without a full respray that I thought was inevitable if I can keep the remaining paint in good condition. Its also worth pointing out that all this has occured on a car Ive known from brand new as I bought it off a good friend who had it from new, so I know it hasnt been resprayed (unless done before it was sold "new").
cheers
Chris
Im cross posting this from a reply I posted the Mk1 Leon forum as its equally relevent in this thread, and I'd also like you guys comments on the paint on my car and what I can do to best preserve what Ive got left!
Anyway, from experience Im pretty certain Onvi Yellow IS lacquered, and unfortunately it may well get a whole lot worse than mere fading
My 01 Onvi Yellow Cupra faded badly, and around a year ago the bonnet / roof (which were most faded) started to peel in little patches, as if acid had been spilled on it. There was still yellow paint underneath, it was just an opaque white crispy layer that was peeling off.
Here's what mine started doing a few months ago
Piccie here
Anyway, its got worse since then seemingly spreading like a skin disease that would only be rectified with a respray anyway, so when I washed it last week (for the first time in a while), I thought I'd put the hose on the flaked bits and see what happened.
This is the result...
Youtube video
If that's not lacquer then what it is?!
Bear in mind this was just a normal garden hose, not a pressure washer! This is the end result...
Pic1
Pic2
Pic3
Im now left with a completely "peeled" bonnet apart from a few bits around the front grill which obviously dont get so much sunlight so havent faded/rotted as badly. Ive also since completely peeled the roof and most of the rear boot lid. Whats left is a very dull matt finished paint, but at least its one that is all one colour and doesn't look like its had acid thrown all over it.
Ive used some T Cut on it and it does come up to a shine, but not quite as good as the original lacquered, so I might speak to a bodyshop to see if I can get it buffed and then possibly re-lacquered.
I wouldnt recommend going this route unless your car gets as bad as mine did, but for me its actually a lot better now than it was, and I might even get away without a full respray that I thought was inevitable if I can keep the remaining paint in good condition. Its also worth pointing out that all this has occured on a car Ive known from brand new as I bought it off a good friend who had it from new, so I know it hasnt been resprayed (unless done before it was sold "new").
cheers
Chris
Thats not right. Should not happen on a car even twice that age, definitely something wrong. Find a person with a paint depth gauge and get them to measure the paint. They will confirm if it has been sprayed and weather it is lacquer peel although it looks a little cloudy for that but could just be the light. Either it is a friday afternoon car went it went to the spray booth or it has had some serious re-spray work at some point.
Yeh definitely shouldn't do that, but as mentioned a good friend of mine had it from brand new until about 18 months ago when I bought it off them, so unless it was reprayed by Seat UK or the dealer prior to being sold new, then it hasn't seen a bodyshop. In addition, my mate's missus was fairly meticulous at washing / polishing it (only with Autoglym) most weekends, so its not as if it has been neglected, yet despite that the lacquer was still starting to go in a couple of very small patches when I bought the car, but at the time I put it down to stonechips allowing a tiny bit of water in under the lacquer. The only real thing going against it was that its always lived outside so hasn't been sheilded from the sun in a garage etc.
The other thing is, the fading does seem to have all the hallmarks of other faded Onvi cars, ie no fading on the plastics, only the metalwork so maybe more Onvi Leons will start doing similar in the next few years
The other thing is, the fading does seem to have all the hallmarks of other faded Onvi cars, ie no fading on the plastics, only the metalwork so maybe more Onvi Leons will start doing similar in the next few years
Can i use some yellow T-cut to help it out..
Like Wash it,Claybar it,t-cut it,Polish it,carbuna wax it and then Detailer ?
yellow t-cut
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI....m=250162710273&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=015
Like Wash it,Claybar it,t-cut it,Polish it,carbuna wax it and then Detailer ?
yellow t-cut
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI....m=250162710273&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=015
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Ive seen some yellow/gold t-cut on ebay can i use that ?
Along with my megs 3 stages?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Car-Plan-T-Cu...ZWD1VQQ_trksidZp1638.m118.l1247QQcmdZViewItem
Along with my megs 3 stages?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Car-Plan-T-Cu...ZWD1VQQ_trksidZp1638.m118.l1247QQcmdZViewItem
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