Cupra R

[tripdiesel]

Since im picking up my cupra next week, i'd like to get a heads up on whats what under the bonnet, does anyone have a good guide for the BAM engine, also information on what type of parts are used, this is my first turbo car so i need to do my research. Any links or infor would be much appreciated.

Many Thanks
Tripdiesel

 

[daboy3000]

Don't have any guides i'm afraid but its a great car and i hope you enjoy it like i enjoy mine. What engine have you gone for?

 

[Cupra_R04]

best guide get out there and enjoy it mate. What year is it though as this will decide what power it has.

 

[tripdiesel]

Its the 2004 225 version with the BAM engine in.

 

[daboy3000]

Oh, a petrol jobbie! Bam means nothing to me. Enjoy.

 

[lordgibbness]

Someone put up a small guide to the engine ancillaries

http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showpost.php?p=2359149&postcount=10

The BAM engine is 1.8L (1781cc) with a KKK turbo 'K04' producing approx 225PS or 222BHP. It has a four cylinders and 20 valves (5 valves per cylinder, 2 intake, 3 exhaust).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Volkswagen_Group_petrol_engines#1.8_20VT_110-176kW

A stage 1 remap from the likes of Custom-Code will produce about 275PS or 272BHP but usually requires changing the diverter valve, which doesn't like the increased boost. The stock valve is a Bosch unit which most people change to a Forge 007P with yellow spring.

Also worth changing is the paper air filter to a lightly oiled cotton gauze such as Jetex or Green. Nothing else really needs to be changed unless you intend to move to stage 2 where a front mounted intercooler and stronger turbo inlet pipes might be required along with a faster flowing exhaust from the likes of milltek.

Most of this can be found using the search on this forum.

 

[EmDee]

lol @ the broken search button tag

 

[tripdiesel]

Someone put up a small guide to the engine ancillaries

URL Edit

The BAM engine is 1.8L (1781cc) with a KKK turbo 'K04' producing approx 225PS or 222BHP. It has a four cylinders and 20 valves (5 valves per cylinder, 2 intake, 3 exhaust).

URL Edit

A stage 1 remap from the likes of Custom-Code will produce about 275PS or 272BHP but usually requires changing the diverter valve, which doesn't like the increased boost. The stock valve is a Bosch unit which most people change to a Forge 007P with yellow spring.

Also worth changing is the paper air filter to a lightly oiled cotton gauze such as Jetex or Green. Nothing else really needs to be changed unless you intend to move to stage 2 where a front mounted intercooler and stronger turbo inlet pipes might be required along with a faster flowing exhaust from the likes of milltek.

Most of this can be found using the search on this forum.

Thankyou, the forge valve i was looking at from recommendation from a mate with a golf, they seem easy enough to fit, which is also handy, i see you have a custom code remap, what is your opinion on there work/code. What sort of gains are you seeing?

My Short terms plans are just a new filter, diverter valve and source a good remap. I dont think i need to start with stage 2 as im going from a 1.4 100hp to 225 i think thats a fair change to start, when i get bored with that ill look to stage 3.

Many Thanks
Tripdiesel

 

[skahigh]

Here's some info I found a while ago mate, actually came back to it myself just yesterday and found it very helpful.

http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showthread.php?t=169337&highlight=lcr+guide

 

[skahigh]

I've got phase 1 CC and been rolling roaded at 260bhp, nice smooth drive with a good kick up the backside.

 

[DamianPM]

You'll love it mate!

I'd say get it mapped and change the TIP and DV for Forge uprated ones...

http://www.dpmperformance.co.uk/forge-fmcl007p-diverter-valve-leon-1m-18t-1199-p-991.html

http://www.dpmperformance.co.uk/for...duction-hose-leon-1m-cupra-r-1199-p-1006.html

Damian @ DPM

 

[skahigh]

There you go again Damian... shocking.

 

[DamianPM]

I don't even realise I'm doing it

 

[lordgibbness]

Thankyou, the forge valve i was looking at from recommendation from a mate with a golf, they seem easy enough to fit, which is also handy, i see you have a custom code remap, what is your opinion on there work/code. What sort of gains are you seeing?

My Short terms plans are just a new filter, diverter valve and source a good remap. I dont think i need to start with stage 2 as im going from a 1.4 100hp to 225 i think thats a fair change to start, when i get bored with that ill look to stage 3.

Many Thanks
Tripdiesel

I did a lot of research into remaps before opting for custom-code. Their map is very smooth and linear compared to a lot of the others, which was just what I was after.

It depends how you like to drive - I am really a petrolhead and diesel-style torque just doesn't suit my driving style - I like continuously increasing power all the way to the rev limiter - as it means when overtaking I can use the full rev range and know that I am getting more power.

Revo (and many others) seem to give you all the torque straight away and this then dies out as the turbo can't sustain this - the problem is it means peak power occurs around 5.5k revs which is far too small a power band.

I had my car on the RR before and after the remap and I achieved 234bhp@6700rpm stock and 281bhp@7500rpm mapped. I don't fully trust rolling roads and I think it over-compensated for losses and was reading about 300rpm too high seeing as the CC rev limit is actually 7200rpm. I think a more accurate reading is 225@6400rpm and 272@7200rpm.

Either way as you can see the power is very progressive - matching the stock map - I like to think of it as the stock map on steroids!

I'd agree on the remap, filter and dv - they're the only engine mods I've needed to do so far!

 

[tripdiesel]

Well its not taken be long but got a few things for the motor already,

Forge 007P
Green Cotton Filter
Smoothed & Drilled the air box
Bosch Aerotwins
Touran Rear Wiper Converstion

Planned: Remap Stage 1

 

[ben-lcr]

sounds like a nice few mods on their way then