Do these quirks happen to your LCR?

Ruddmeister

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You'll always get a power drop with air con on. Though it shouldn't really be noticable on a 200+ BHP car as it only takes a a few BHP to run.

I drove my car for 50k miles usual blend of hard driving, cruising and pottering around (same as most people) and the aircon was never off......yes even in winter.....never had any aircon problems.

I've been on these boards a while and aircon problems are NOT common on the LCR, the odd recharge needed by people etc but by no means common on the hundreds we have had on the forums.

In winter the air conditioning cuts down the amount of moisture in the car I found (the conditioning bit of the aircon) and therefore less time de-misting etc.

I could never tell the power difference with air con on or off besdies a remap takes care of that issue ;)
 

Colonelk

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I've had my LCR 8 days now and I've noticed some quirks that I wanted to check with other LCR owners. I have no base of reference with the LCR so I need some feedback please.

Things I have noticed:

  • At high speeds (over 100mph) the steering feels very light and I find myself correcting with the steering wheel from side to side at times
  • At even high speeds (over 110+) the car/steering vibrates slightly and makes my keys jangle !! If I recall correctly it goes away at about 130Mph.
  • The turbo spools up quickly from about 2700RPM but the lag is noticeable in the higher gears (4th,5th,6th) if trying to pick up from below that 2700rpm so it feels sluggish till it kicks in (like a mule).
  • My front suspension creaks over speedbumps most of the time now. Not really noticeable on the open road, unless its really bumpy and I'm going slow!
  • The radio/CD gets louder when I increase speed (too loud at times). Is there any way to turn it off!
  • The aircon is bloomin noisy when the fans spin at full whack. Also when the aircon is on properly I notice a reduction in the car's power (it feels sluggish with it on at low revs)

Thats about it for now.

How common are these quirks? Does the car have a problem (its under warranty so I can get it sorted if it is)

Thanks for feedback

CK

Coming back to this after a few months. Car is in Listers Cov for suspension work under warranty. They agreed with my independent mechanics report that the bushes need replacing, and SEAT are also going to change the front ARB. Thats happening today, so I'll see if that sorts the creaking/knocking out.

I've also had two new GSD3's fitted (on the front, as there is a new pirelli and a Dunlop SP Maxx at the rear which has plenty left in it). The vibration at high speeds has now gone too so that was defintely related to the previous tyres! I got them done yesterday so that when the dealer has sorted the suspension they can properly align the wheels with thenew tyres already in place.

I read my manual and sorted the stereo loudness issue ;)

The aircon is still noisey but the dealer reckons that it is normal compared with other LCR's.
 

DPJ

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I drove my car for 50k miles usual blend of hard driving, cruising and pottering around (same as most people) and the aircon was never off......yes even in winter.....never had any aircon problems.

I've been on these boards a while and aircon problems are NOT common on the LCR, the odd recharge needed by people etc but by no means common on the hundreds we have had on the forums.

In winter the air conditioning cuts down the amount of moisture in the car I found (the conditioning bit of the aircon) and therefore less time de-misting etc.

I could never tell the power difference with air con on or off besdies a remap takes care of that issue ;)

I completely agree with everything Steve says here. I'm the same. Always on, always set at 21.5 degrees, all year round. I've had bigger cars with better climate control. The Leon aircon copes fine with the smaller cabin.
 

swissrebel

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its not a flaw really, its just something you can do to prevent long-term damage ... here in Saudi Arabia the aircon is the most critical part of the car :p se we know trust me ...

also try not to turn on the AC when the engine speed is above 2000 rpm ... again, the compressor pulley clutch engages and repeated engaging at high engine speeds will damage it ... imagine jumping on a treadmill at full speed

Sensibile advice, learn something new every day...
 
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I completely agree with everything Steve says here. I'm the same. Always on, always set at 21.5 degrees, all year round. I've had bigger cars with better climate control. The Leon aircon copes fine with the smaller cabin.

Dave your not confusing climate control for air con are you
cos i always have mine set to 21 degrees but i dont have the ac switched on.
The climate control should not drain the power from the engine or use any excess fuel
where as the ac does both of the above.
Or thats what i always believed so
 
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Dave your not confusing climate control for air con are you
cos i always have mine set to 21 degrees but i dont have the ac switched on.
The climate control should not drain the power from the engine or use any excess fuel
where as the ac does both of the above.
Or thats what i always believed so

i thought it was impossible to have climate control on without the air con being on, the cc uses the ac to do its job does it not?

also, how does one switch off the ac on the lcr? i know i can switch to manual mode by adjusting the fan speed or direction, does that switch off the ac?
 

DPJ

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Dave your not confusing climate control for air con are you
cos i always have mine set to 21 degrees but i dont have the ac switched on.
The climate control should not drain the power from the engine or use any excess fuel
where as the ac does both of the above.
Or thats what i always believed so

Climate Control is automatic. The climate control turns the ac on and off as and when required.
 

RobM

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Only if you push the Auto button and leave it that way, DPJ. If you turn air con off, it wont automatically come back on. And if you push Auto and leave it that way, it's always on. How much it's used will, of course, vary, but it is always on.
 

DPJ

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Only if you push the Auto button and leave it that way, DPJ. If you turn air con off, it wont automatically come back on. And if you push Auto and leave it that way, it's always on. How much it's used will, of course, vary, but it is always on.

Exactly Rob, if auto isn't pressed, there is no climate control. With climate control, aircon is used as required.
 

RobM

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Sorry, my fault. I thought you meant automatic in that it turns the aircon on and off automatically! :doh:
 

Colonelk

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Good luck with that rear tyre combination :blink:

Something to worry about?

Previous owner did 1 tyre at a time when needed it seems. I'm going to do them in pairs. New GSD's now on the front. When one of the rear ones has had it I'll get them both replaced for GSD3's too I think.
 

Ruddmeister

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Something to worry about?

Previous owner did 1 tyre at a time when needed it seems. I'm going to do them in pairs. New GSD's now on the front. When one of the rear ones has had it I'll get them both replaced for GSD3's too I think.

:shrug:

Good practice is to have the same tyres accross each axle i.e, front and rear can be different

Also IMO your far more likely to be able to control an LCR in a slide with your best tyres on the rear......

When the LCR snaps to oversteer (particualrly in the wet) you need to be Schumacher to catch it.

Poorer tyres on the front may induce a little more understeer but it's far more controllable IMO
 

Cupraloon

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Cannot say about LCR, for sure but with my LC the steering wanders and feels a bit too loose at most speeds, i just thought it was the tyre's that are on the car, but perhaps it's a symptom on the Leon that the steering is just a little bit too light generally, although i didn't notice it as much on the LCR I drove the other week, it that helps at all.
 

Colonelk

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:shrug:

Good practice is to have the same tyres accross each axle i.e, front and rear can be different

Also IMO your far more likely to be able to control an LCR in a slide with your best tyres on the rear......

When the LCR snaps to oversteer (particualrly in the wet) you need to be Schumacher to catch it.

Poorer tyres on the front may induce a little more understeer but it's far more controllable IMO


yeah I know about the best tyres at rear etc, but like I said the Pzero rosso the dealer put on was knew when i had it, and the Dunlop has more plenty on it too.

What do you mean by "across each axle". Are you saying that you should make sure the fronts are the same brand, and the rears are the same brand? (but different fromt he fronts is ok)

To be honest, I don't drive it that agressively as to induce stacks of oversteer. I'm not a loon...... ;)
 

Mike Green

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Colonelk - I am being lazy I know but how did you sort the stereo issue? that has been bugging me for a few weeks now...
 

Colonelk

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Colonelk - I am being lazy I know but how did you sort the stereo issue? that has been bugging me for a few weeks now...

I wish I could tell you off the top of my head but I'd have to dig around in the manual! Its clearly mentioned in the radio manual though so I guess you are gonna have to read it m8 :D

Sorry :redface:
 

Triple D

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you should have let us know when the car was going in matey, i have a contact who is a mechanic at listers, i could have got him to keep an eye on the car for you, as they are real shits when people take there cars in, they thrash and abuse them quite badly.
 

sportbilly

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Just so you know if you turn your air con on and the fans spin up instantly (all the time when the compressor is on) then its more than likely your slow speed fans are not working - hence the fast one's being on all the time. They will need replacing.

I got through 2 sets on my LCR .
 
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