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DPF light

farrar

Full Member
Mar 18, 2005
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I was driving in my 1.6 CR TDI and the DPF light illuminated for the first time. It went off after about 2 minutes and it hasn't come back on since. It this normal?
 

nightflight

Active Member
May 18, 2009
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Sheffield
It'll do all sorts that ****ing light.

I'm currently miffed that my car is currently sat in limp mode outside my house after cutting out in the middle of ****ing nowhere this evening in the middle of a regen run down the a57, revs high, having some fun with an astra, and then nothing. limped it back to a nearby petrol station and only just got home now thanks to seat assistance

wanky ****ing thing. can't wait for custom code to sort out a dpf-delete package for it.
Hoping my local dealers will take pity on me and not charge me the few hundred quid to do a force regen they should do. After all, if i was doing a regen run when it cut out.
 

golfgtipaul

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Jul 14, 2009
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that bloody light - arrrrrgh! mine has been on 5 times in 6 months and i only do long 30 mile drives not loads of town driving. Sick of having to drive miles in 3rd gear doing 3500 revs for bloody ages before it goes off! its a nusance!!!!!!!
 

JonnyT30

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Jul 18, 2009
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Heres some proof that the system doesn't work properly anyway. Couple of weeks ago had dpf light on my car, but try as I did I couldn't get the fecker to go out, even after 20 ish miles of 3rd gear at 40 mph. Just happened to be passing by my dealer so took it in. The peeps in the workshop took it in and hooked it up, ran it till the dpf level was at 0 but the light still stayed on, they also said that they had another car in the workshop with the same fault. So I took the car back and drove it however I normally drive and after about 60 miles the light suddenly went out.

Just reading some of the above comments though, some of you peeps may be revving the engine too high when trying to clear. Yeah the description in the manual is shite, but seem to find that 40mph ish in 3rd gear resting a feather on the throttle seem to do the trick (normally).
 
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nightflight

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May 18, 2009
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Sheffield
some of you peeps may be revving the engine too high when trying to clear. Yeah the description in the manual is shite, but seem to find that 40mph ish in 3rd gear resting a feather on the throttle seem to do the trick (normally).

i suspect that might've been me today :lol: i thought it was just a case of getting the engine hot enough to burn it all off, but today i learnt that it dumps extra fuel into the exhaust stoke in under certain parameters. I suspect that using the full rev range isn't those parameters.

It's a ****ing stupid system anyway, the AA guy who came out today was saying that the ones that use a liquid additive to clear don't half anywhere near so many issues as the active regen systems
 

BeakerCupra

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I've got a 55 plate Pug 307 2.0 HDi 136 which uses a fluid regen system, and believe me it's the most god awful system known to man. (mind you, it is french :cry:) And flaming expensive to repair when it goes wrong, or needs refilling. It's just cost me over a grand to get it refilled and repaired. With the amount of times it's gone wrong this past year i'm on first name terms with half the RAC patrol men in Nottinghamshire. Stick with the active regen versions of DPF's! They're a damn sight cheaper! :lol:

Ian
 
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JonnyT30

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Jul 18, 2009
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Keep the revs at about 2300 in 3rd or 4th(3rd seems to work best) You need to get the maximum exhaust temp from the minimum amount of fuel. I think that revving the arse off it only works when the vehicle is stood still. Just rest your foot on the accelerator to maintain the revs, and don't bother racing Vauxhalls.
They`re fecking **** cars anyway:whistle: and not worth the wasted fuel imho.
 
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nightflight

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May 18, 2009
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Sheffield
Nice, stealers won't waive the regen fee, ****ing thing.

Going to contact CAB, i ordered a 1.9tdi which wouldn't have given me these issues, and wasn't warned about the dpf on the 1.6 when i picked it up.

Why the f*** didn't Seat have the active regen setting at full revs in neutral.
 

golfgtipaul

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Jul 14, 2009
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sorry i put 3500 revs, yeah i usually do 2500 - 3000 when trying to clear it! Its just a nightmare when it suddenly comes on and you have to start taking it on 10 mile run to clear it on a clear stretch of road!
 

JBS Sales

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Good Morning!

I'm sure as some of you may be aware here at JBS we have just finished doing a DPF delete package deal for the 2.0 tdi 170PPD Seat Leon.

Up to now we have not developed anything for the 1.6tdi engine, but should the demand be there we will look into doing a DPF delete package for these aswel.

The Leon DPF delete service boasted 10-20MPG extra and took the the stock 170bph engine to between 210-230bhp. This of course all being extra's to the increased reliability of not having the DPF as part of the system.

Here is the link to the 170pd group buy offer, this will give you a rough idea of the discount we can give dependant on how many numbers you can get on the deal. (this price is not exact for the 1.6, merely a guideline).
http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showthread.php?t=253484

If you can get the relevant numbers together we will need a development car for this, which will be required over a several day period.

To save filling this thread with names and details, if you are interested in us carrying out the DPF development for the 1.6 please PM us the following details and if the demand is great enough we will arrange the development and sort a final package price out for this.

Name:
User Name:
Contact number:
Contact email:

Car details:


Look forward to hearing from you soon.


Seb Hampson
Parts/Sales Advisor.
 

nightflight

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May 18, 2009
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Sheffield
^Interested

Does anyone know how much the stealer is going to tell me they want to sit in my car with a laptop for a few minutes clearing my DPF later today?
I'm dreading the phone call.
 

JonnyT30

Active Member
Jul 18, 2009
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Nightflight, surely its going to be easier(cheaper) at some point to get yourself a copy of vagcom and clear the thing yourself.
Regarding the dpf delete. Yeah I bet that a lot of people on here will be interested, but firstly, most people here will still be inside their warranties so aren't going to want to give that up. and secondly, is anybody going to want to be a guineapig for this, surely those of us with the dpf are already doing that for VW, and personally I would rather see details of a system that has been tried and thoroughly tested before I part with my hard earned.
 

golfgtipaul

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Jul 14, 2009
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Nightflight, surely its going to be easier(cheaper) at some point to get yourself a copy of vagcom and clear the thing yourself.
Regarding the dpf delete. Yeah I bet that a lot of people on here will be interested, but firstly, most people here will still be inside their warranties so aren't going to want to give that up. and secondly, is anybody going to want to be a guineapig for this, surely those of us with the dpf are already doing that for VW, and personally I would rather see details of a system that has been tried and thoroughly tested before I part with my hard earned.
agreed!
 

JBS Sales

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Hi Guys,

Vagcom clearing the DPF is a fantastic idea and short term solution but can only work for so long.

Once the DPF gets so full, the ECU recognises that the back pressure created by the DPF is dangerous and will not allow you to regenerate the filter. From this stage the only option by dealer is to replace the DPF pipe.

Having got a price today on a replacement DPF for the 1.6tdi Ibiza at a local dealer for £1084 +VAT, +FITTING +PROGRAMMING. I know that myself personally wouldn't want to spend that sort of money when the vehicle comes out of warranty to potentially have the problem again a year later on.

The DPF delete service offers you increased reliability, MPG and BHP. All these factors and for less than the price of a standard replacement DPF!! All the DPF delete packages come with Custom-Code DPF delete Phase 2 software and will include the labour for fitting.

The beauty of the group buy offer is that you get this service for a heavily discounted rate and can be one of the first to have the work carried out.

Unfortunatly the development for this has to start somewhere and will require a development car to design and work with the benefit of this being we offer a further discounted rate on the package.

If you are interested in being involved in a group buy on this or even using your vehicle as the development car please PM us your details as stated above and we can get something drawn up both time scale and price wise.


Many thanks

Seb Hampson
Parts/Sales Advisor.
 

golfgtipaul

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Jul 14, 2009
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Bloody hell, i said my light has come on 5 times, make that 6 now! just came on today! knew it would cos it was trying to regenerate last night and i was doing a lot of short stops and engine off! Actually found going 2500 revs in 3rd gear put it out much easier than normal, it never seems to go out if you stick it in 2nd gear!
 

JonnyT30

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Jul 18, 2009
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Bloody hell, i said my light has come on 5 times, make that 6 now! just came on today! knew it would cos it was trying to regenerate last night and i was doing a lot of short stops and engine off! Actually found going 2500 revs in 3rd gear put it out much easier than normal, it never seems to go out if you stick it in 2nd gear!
If you know that its doing a regen, why not just carry on driving until its done. The regen cycle lasts for 25 mins and continues as long as the vehicle speed stays above 40mph ish. So when you know what its up to, just drive a long way back from work. But yeah 2500 revs in 3rd does the job well. Remember the idea is to get the maximum exhaust temp from the minimum amount of fuel. I have cleared it pretty well doing 50 - 55 mph in 4th as well, not quite as quick though, but had just got on the motorway at the time so had no choice, but just remember that you only need to be really light on the throttle, just enough to maintain the speed.
 

JonnyT30

Active Member
Jul 18, 2009
55
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As far as the dpf delete thing goes though. Don't think that this engine has been out for a year until July ish this year so warranties won't be running out for a couple of years, but I bet after that people will be queueing up for it to be done. Maybe now is just a bit too early.
 

DJ_Eatch

Active Member
Mar 8, 2010
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Nottingham
I'm ready for it now and my car hasn't even arrived yet. It's gonna save time and money as i do so few miles. Just need some way of carrying warranty over.
 
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