Drkas LCR- Air and Interior by Plush

drka-drka

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UPDATE

Went to the RR yesterday with 8bit, sponge g40 and corsasport lads

It was down at dastec all the SCN lads were erm pretty late haha. Most powerful car there was a corsa B turbo made sumthing like 540bhp crazy from a corsa

I made 203 bhp at the wheels, i was pretty happy. Got told was a good example and held its boost well:)

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Also got a tip of sponge how to get my ariel off so fitted my old 207 one

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not mapped but good figures. Logging with VAG com would prove/disprove this

@ 15 PSI boost this is not a mapped car.

60 BHP losses is a very high figure.
Depends on the RR but I've seen on other cars 25-50 BHP losses.
Logging is the only way to tell but 203 BHP ATW is a very decent figur for an OEM mapped car.
Get it on VAG com logging 009, 020 and 15, get the revs down to 1,200 RPM's in 4th and pin the accelerator and take it all the way up to 6,500 RPM's.
This will show a MAF flow figure, boost actual v's requested and will 100% tell whether your car is mapped or not

Allen logged my car when it was still totally standard shortly after I got it, it showed about 181.28g/s which works out to 226.6 or 231.1 BHP, depending whether you like to multiply by 1.25 or 1.275. This was with the OEM paper filter in the standard airbox. Between then and the RR day the only changes are a silicone TIP, 007p valve and big Jetex cone filter. The car doesn't feel like it's lost any power since i got it, if anything it feels slightly more responsive.

The dyno is only 3 weeks old and some others did say they were a bit disappointed with the figures... That said Russ said he sees quite a lot of these cars and they all show about 60bhp loss in drivetrain?

I'll post my printouts in my own RR thread today and start one in the mk1 LCR section as I've got a potential slight fuelling issue which I need input on too.


Sorry to bring up some mentally old posts but is this mother fooker mapped or not,mbeen looking thru loads of mapping related posts and I have no idea where mine sits, not mapped or just a really crappy map
 

drka-drka

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Mate, the alloys and air are fitted spot on, they really look perfect, well done.

Thanks a lot mate, got asked if I planned the stance but it was just really luck it paid off

Awesome car man...
ok i cant be assed reading back, but probably loads of people have asked this. What size are those wheels? Are they bigger/wider than standard rims and you running big spacers or are they just big wheels? cheers

Cheers man, the fronts are 8.5j so one inch wider than oem, the rears are 9.5j both are 18inchs. Think with it being lower could make them look bigger. I'm running 20mm spacers rear and 15mm on fronts, so pretty wide
 

8bit

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Sorry to bring up some mentally old posts but is this mother fooker mapped or not,mbeen looking thru loads of mapping related posts and I have no idea where mine sits, not mapped or just a really crappy map

Hard to say tbh. 15psi is a bit higher than stock but the figures off that dyno aren't that high, I'd be expecting to see around that sort of ATW figures on an unmapped car. This is my graph from the same day. My car was confirmed as still having stock map some time after that.

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My boost is a couple of psi short of yours across the board so I think possibly yes but it's a very conservative map. Note that my AFR graph is a bit strange (doesn't richen up as revs rise), this was due to a duff thermostat.

Here's my latest graphs, after Revo stage 1:

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Different day, different dyno, granted - but you can see the difference in the boost graph - peak of nearly 24psi and a gain of about 60bhp and 70lb/ft at the wheels.

I'd say get it logged with Vagcom, check boost (actual vs. request) and MAF readings as a minimum. 4th gear, pedal flat out from about 2000rpm to 6500.

Then, get Revo :)
 

drka-drka

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Yeah my figures really ain't to impressive if it was mapped, I'd like to have someone with vag-com have a look plus I want the blipper that Kat has pmsl.

Regards to map I'm really unsure who to go with, a guy I used to work with now does maps for ***** or sumthing he didn't rate revo to much( but that's only his view plus he probly wants business) I'm after a increase across the whole board not just big bhp increase.

But 1st need a 3" system either going for a miltex( so pricey tho) blue flame (heard good things and sounds awesome in vids) or.... A custom full system from a local place.
 

8bit

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Yeah my figures really ain't to impressive if it was mapped, I'd like to have someone with vag-com have a look plus I want the blipper that Kat has pmsl.

Regards to map I'm really unsure who to go with, a guy I used to work with now does maps for ***** or sumthing he didn't rate revo to much( but that's only his view plus he probly wants business) I'm after a increase across the whole board not just big bhp increase.

But 1st need a 3" system either going for a miltex( so pricey tho) blue flame (heard good things and sounds awesome in vids) or.... A custom full system from a local place.

Well mine was a *huge* difference over stock, it pulls twice as hard in any gear and holds it much better, much closer to the red line. You've already got an aftermarket exhaust and FMIC so just go straight for stage 2. I can only speak for Revo but I was astonished at the difference it made to my car.
 
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Can't really comment on other maps but I like the custom code one on mine, really smooth and progressive. Don't hear much about them on here but what I have heard is always good
 
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tyrer

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Mate whatever you do take your time and get researching the map you want. You have a perfect car and the last thing you want it to cause problems with a generic map or unproven one.

I went Revo for one reason and one reason only, proven track record and customer service. Expensive yes BUT ive had no problems, only thing I'd do is change to the linear one I reckon
 

drka-drka

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Well mine was a *huge* difference over stock, it pulls twice as hard in any gear and holds it much better, much closer to the red line. You've already got an aftermarket exhaust and FMIC so just go straight for stage 2. I can only speak for Revo but I was astonished at the difference it made to my car.

I think I'm gonna be in for a shock when I get it mapped, thought it was alright as it is :happy:

The exhaust is only a backbox I think, need get full system :D

Can't really comment on other maps but I like the custom code one on mine, really smooth and progressive. Don't hear much about them on here but what I have heard is always good

Thanks for that mate, always good to hear more options.

Mate whatever you do take your time and get researching the map you want. You have a perfect car and the last thing you want it to cause problems with a generic map or unproven one.

I went Revo for one reason and one reason only, proven track record and customer service. Expensive yes BUT ive had no problems, only thing I'd do is change to the linear one I reckon

I won't be rushing in at all, gonna ask plenty people try get a go in one or two cars. It's revo iv heard loads about but iv never been to keen.....mmmmmmm decisions.
 

8bit

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Can't really comment on other maps but I like the custom code one on mine, really smooth and progressive. Don't hear much about them on here but what I have heard is always good

They were a sponsor on here until about a year ago I think, used to be pretty popular until around then. I guess a lot of newer folk don't hear about them nowadays, unless they use other forums too. I'd possibly have gone for a Custom Code map due to cost but I got my Revo map in the special offer before Christmas, 10% off and with a free SPS switch box.

Mate whatever you do take your time and get researching the map you want. You have a perfect car and the last thing you want it to cause problems with a generic map or unproven one.

I went Revo for one reason and one reason only, proven track record and customer service. Expensive yes BUT ive had no problems, only thing I'd do is change to the linear one I reckon

Linear map is great but it's more subtle than folk think. All it means is that the throttle pedal response curve isn't a curve, it's a straight line. On the stock LCR map and most other remaps the throttle response is logarithmic, so 50% pedal angle might mean 75% throttle plate angle. With the linear map 50% pedal means 50% throttle. Boost, fuelling and timing maps are all the same as regular Revo of the same version of code so power and torque figures and curves will be near-enough exactly the same as non-linear.

The result is that the car feels a bit more refined, predictable and civilised to drive. At lower speeds off-boost it's easier to be smooth and when fine-adjusting throttle input during cornering it's easier to feed it in a touch more to let the car run wide coming out of corners without upsetting it and losing traction causing ESP to kick in.

In short, Revo non-linear vs. stock will feel the same, just faster. Revo linear vs. stock will feel faster plus slightly better balanced and easier to control.
 

drka-drka

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I like the sound of the linear map, I'm after a bit of a bigger package than just more power. Kinda hoping it pops and bangs once everything is set up.lol mine bangs changing from 2nd to 3rd love it haha. Vxr stylee.

Even "just" a stage one would give me a better idea what to expect.
 

8bit

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It's possible to tweak the fuelling on the over-run to give you pops and crackles etc. when shifting, there's a thread in the Mk1 section (started by JamJay), search for unisettings in threads started by him.

No problem, you up in Braemar just now? Fire me a PM and we'll sort something out.
 

8bit

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I don't get any pops or bangs cos I'm still on the stock exhaust. You'll want a decat for that stuff, if you set the fuelling up so it pops and bangs on over run then you'll destroy the cat. But if it's popping and banging now then you've either got a decat or it's already fcuked ;)

Not sure about the meet yet, if you're definitely going then I'll head along if I'm free. If not then I could meet you in Alford or Aboyne if those are handy enough for you?
 

tyrer

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Wheel *****, I take it that's 1. drive height, 2. I have air and 3. Sump kill

Who's is the cupra? Any clean pics of the 2 of them
 

drka-drka

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Okay my power hungry fellows.... Exhaust talk to me. Thinking getting one of these stage two things you guys have but haven't taken pics of so i don't think they'r real ;-) so last thing I need to get is a 3" system.

Went and spoke to the guy who sorted my current exhaust and spoke about full custom system. He said for me to get a aftermarket downpipe would make his world easier (1st what's decent..not mad pricey)

Then he went on about de-cat... Or sports cat. I'm thinking de-cat as I want pop pop bang bang noises, worried about mots tho.

Or do I get one of the branded exhaust second hand and chop the tail pipe off and stick mine on.
 
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