DTUK Tuning Box

T21CDJ

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Yeah that’s the one pal. Would you say that’s about the best setting then? As I say I want to try and avoid the wheel spin at low revs but still have nice pull and have more quarter to mid range power. Yeah I find that jerk annoying under half throttle. Would prefer to try and find a setting where there is none. Yeah I only use shell v power.
I find it the best,even thought power is low down there isn't any more wheel spin than standard and doesn't tail off guicker. I used to use shell vpower all the time, until I got dodgy fuel twice in a row from different stations. Try BP ultimate or Sainsbury's super. Apparently they are the same that I have read. They certainly feel the same and car runs smooth on it. I was using Costco 99 until 2 months ago and notice a difference in the car when I switched to BP/Sainsbury's. Much smooth and don't get the half throttle jerk.

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Nora2004

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Just as a sidenote, v power and momentum are a higher octane rating than Bp ultimate, running those should yield more ignition timing at higher boost! Although I continuously get timing pull with Momentum, and little to none with v-power! Shame about the cost!
 

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There was a very interesting article some time ago on one of the Golf Forums comparing V Power vs Tesco Momentum.

The conclusion of the article was they are both very good fuels but.

V-Power is used by Lots of people with high performance cars.
Momentum can be used by lots of people with high performance cars.

The reason the difference is important (according to the article) was that the additives that both companies put in the fuel have a limited shelf life and because V-Power is a more go to fuel there is less likely to be old fuel in the tank which may not be the case with Tesco.

I personally have never had issues with Momentum but I can understand why you may.
 

Blowski

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I use momentum. Have had no issues with it but to honest I just try to get home from work with a smile on my face so i don’t think I’d notice any difference between momentum and V power. I also happen to live very close to the busiest ferry port in Europe... the closest Shell garage sees dollar signs from all the tourists and the price of V Power is up there with airport prices


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T21CDJ

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Just as a sidenote, v power and momentum are a higher octane rating than Bp ultimate, running those should yield more ignition timing at higher boost! Although I continuously get timing pull with Momentum, and little to none with v-power! Shame about the cost!
I agree I used to love shell vpower and the car run great on it. Just 2 bad tanks of fuel from the 2 closest stations to myself put me off. The Tesco near me I have never seen anyone but myself use it lol. The car didn't run rite on it, poss due to not being used. Just never had an issue with Sainsburys or BP. Costco 99 is good depending which Costco I go to.

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I can only get BP Ultimate and that’s all I’ve ever put in my Cupra. The nearest Tesco to me doesn’t do Momentum and the next one which does is 30 miles away. As for Shell the nearest garage is also 30 miles away.

Should I possibly be filling up with V Power or Momentum when I get the chance? Would it benefit my car if I did, which wouldn’t be that often?
 

Legojon

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Should I possibly be filling up with V Power or Momentum when I get the chance? Would it benefit my car if I did, which wouldn’t be that often?

I think it was actually Shell that said, you'll only benefit from the vpower detergents if your engines dirty. And once it's cleaned what it can, that's it. We're talking on engines that aren't specifically remapped for it, because ignition timing is a different story. But Shell recommended doing 1 in every 4 as V Power for it's cleaning. Then the other 3 just normal fuelsave. Don't ask me to find the article though, I'm tired n grumpy!
 

Naylor92

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I find it the best,even thought power is low down there isn't any more wheel spin than standard and doesn't tail off guicker. I used to use shell vpower all the time, until I got dodgy fuel twice in a row from different stations. Try BP ultimate or Sainsbury's super. Apparently they are the same that I have read. They certainly feel the same and car runs smooth on it. I was using Costco 99 until 2 months ago and notice a difference in the car when I switched to BP/Sainsbury's. Much smooth and don't get the half throttle jerk.

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Cheers chap. That’s very interesting. So programme 1+3 and it depends on the fuel you use. Strange that really when most of it is similar. Apart from others like BP having only 97 Ron. I use V power so do you reckon I could change or you say it is same as the ones you use?
 

Pew.

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Should I stick to V power ?
Makes little difference to the point of being unnoticeable. The dtuk is not specifically written to maximise the output of higher Ron fuel. I've ran mine on all types of fuel across 3 cars with dtuk and as the driver felt no difference.

If you were getting a proper remap some can be mapped specifically to run on higher Ron and produce slightly better results
 

Pew.

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Fuel won't be the answer.

Fyi, a lot of MK3 drivers report a jerky drive and 1st gear change when the engines cold, goes away once it starts to warm up. Appears to simply be a trait of the MK3 1.8 and 2.0tsi
 

Pew.

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And start the box on just the programme setting for a couple weeks, then go +1 for a few weeks, then 2 etc

Som cars simply won't run on any of the +1 settings smoothly, it various with every car but start low, let the car get used to it.

A lot of people for right in at +2 and 3 after a day and have issues.
 

Naylor92

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Fuel won't be the answer.

Fyi, a lot of MK3 drivers report a jerky drive and 1st gear change when the engines cold, goes away once it starts to warm up. Appears to simply be a trait of the MK3 1.8 and 2.0tsi
Ahhh I see. Maybe that is the problem then. Well it isn’t a problem. It’s only every now and again so it must be when the car is cold. I want to have a play around with the settings though. Do you have a box on your car?
 

T21CDJ

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Cheers chap. That’s very interesting. So programme 1+3 and it depends on the fuel you use. Strange that really when most of it is similar. Apart from others like BP having only 97 Ron. I use V power so do you reckon I could change or you say it is same as the ones you use?
It has for me but I haven't tried it on vpower for a while. I worked up the plus setting and u do notice a difference each time u change. I find program 1 really responsive and on +3 the power is great.

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Pew.

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Ahhh I see. Maybe that is the problem then. Well it isn’t a problem. It’s only every now and again so it must be when the car is cold. I want to have a play around with the settings though. Do you have a box on your car?

Got a box on my current FR 1.8 had one on my previous Cupra, my previous Leon diesel and 2 none seats before that
 

Naylor92

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It has for me but I haven't tried it on vpower for a while. I worked up the plus setting and u do notice a difference each time u change. I find program 1 really responsive and on +3 the power is great.

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Yeah will have a play around today. Cheers
 

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There are many flags in the VAG arsenal (see below)

This issue has been talked to death over many many years.
VAG are always on the lookout for ways to not pay out.
When every you modify your car you take a risk that's a fact as long as you are happy with that risk then carry on but its a risk....


this document was released around 2 years ago, and if you look at the module in the bulletin its actually a "can bus" style tuning box that connects to the ECU. As ours ( infant most others) connect at sensor level then there is no way that a tb1 code can be flagged, unless a technician sees the kit connected to the car and can add a TB1 flag manually.

In the time since this was released ive personally owned

2 X S3
1 X RS3 Saloon
2 X New S4's
1 X Golf R

All have been "checked" when the cars were returned back to Audi/VW and nothing was flagged at all :) So as long as the box is removed before heading to the dealer then you won't have any issues at all..

When were talking DTUK, I may as well post some info about this new option we now have

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The TCU+ flash provides gearbox tuning to increase the performance and drivability of any automatic geared vehicle.

No PC, laptop or internet connection required, simply plug in through the vehicle diagnostic port (OBD).

Enhances the performance of your engine & gearbox by increasing torque limits and altering the gearbox TCU settings.

The device uploads the new settings within 30-90 seconds and will not add a count to the ECU flash counter, programming is started and completed with audible beep sounds and an LED, it is also not dealer traceable.

Can be used as many times as required on the first vehicle its connected to, if the dealer flashes new software to the car during a service you can simply reuse the device again.

(this item is not suitable for Manual or CVT transmissions)





The TCU+ Gearbox Flash installation guide.

The TCU+ Gearbox Flash is an OBD flash tool that not only unlocks manufacturer’s transmission settings within the vehicles ECU to give smoother and quicker gear shifts, increased torque and performance. It also now provides an adaptation reset as standard which helps you get the most from your car. This provides an essential tool in your vehicle’s modifications journey.

The TCU+ Gearbox Flash has three functional requirements.

  • The need to improve and optimize the gear shift speeds and modify torque settings in the modern automatic gearing systems to improve the overall driving experience.
  • The need to create a simple to use Plug n Play OBD solution which is easy to install and at an affordable price.
  • Provide the end user with a tool that allows the vehicles adaptation settings to be reset to factory, simply and efficiently.
How does it work?

The all-new TCU+ Flash Tool integrates with the vehicle’s onboard communications network via OBD to access the ECU, TCU and Convenience modules to adjust/reset the shift strategies within the OEM control components to “point” or “re address” these strategies to the best and most optimal settings.

This includes changing the transmission shift speed pointer to a faster/different setting. The internal components that make up the mechanics of the transmission have a wide range of tolerance and multiple settings allowing manufacturers in most cases to use single components across a wide range of vehicles allowing them to reduce production costs across the group. They all contain similar if not the same generation components, usually built in the same factory, but have model specific software strategies that are used for their specific application.

The New TCU+ provides a Clean Start Point

Over time your vehicle may have adapted to a slower shift due to a previous owner driving style or the way the vehicle has been driven over time. Unique to the new TCU+ Tool we have added the extra function of resetting this to provide a ‘Clean slate’ install. This is an essential step when modifying or tuning as it gives the user a factory clean reference point and base line.

What’s all the Torque About?

Torque Limits are also set in various systems and control modules within the vehicle; this is set by the manufacturer and is one of the easy ways to electronically limit power in certain models of vehicles. This allows the manufacturer to release many different power variants with different driving characteristics with only a single engine. This is a much more cost-effective way of creating a vehicle range without the need to manufacture multiple engines at different power levels. We all know how many power variants are available for the VW Golf 2.0TDi for example. Same engine different software settings.

The New TCU+ Releases Lost Power.

By simply unlocking, resetting and amending the torque settings to the various other manufacturers settings we can allow the vehicle to produce and deliver power safely and still stay within the manufacturers specified limits. This style of ‘derestricting’ ensures that key settings such as clamping force, slip, torque limits, shift speeds etc. all remain within not only manufacturers spec, but also component spec, thus never exceeding safe operating tolerances or shortening component life.

How do I Install the new TCU+ Tool?

The new TCU Flash device is a simple Plug in OBD Flash unit. Plug the unit into the OBD port, wait for the procedure to complete and then remove from the OBD slot, it really is that Simple! Once installed the tool is then locked to that vehicles VIN (Vehicle Identity Number), which can be flashed multiple time to refresh the upgrade if it has been erased by the Main dealer or Manufacturer.

How do I remove the TCU+

If you require the TCU+ to be removed this MUST be done at the main dealer with a standard flash back to stock/reset at dealer level

Installation Procedure

  • Switch ‘ON’ ignition, but do not start engine. Ensure dashboard/ignition lights are illuminated.
  • Locate OBD port (on board diagnostic plug) usually located in the driver side foot well.
  • With the ignition still in the ‘ON’ position (engine NOT started) insert the flash tool into the socket. You should hear an audible beep and the LED will illuminate. The tool is now active and has begun to program.
  • Once the upgrade is complete the unit will begin to beep constantly confirming the process has completed successfully and the LED will switch OFF.
  • Remove the flash tool from the OBD port and switch ignition into the ‘OFF’ position
  • IMPORTANT – Start the engine by turning the key only. DO NOT PRESS GAS/Throttle/ Accelerator Pedal and allow to idle for 5 mins. On some vehicles you may hear the engine hunt/rev in this time, then eventually settle.
  • After 5 mins of idle you can now drive the vehicle using the full rev range and, in all gears, and modes, in both sport and manual. The vehicle will now begin the adaption phase and adjust to the new upgrade. This phase can take anything form 10 – 100+ miles depending on vehicle. We advise driving the car briskly for the first 80 -100 miles to achieve the best results Once complete the vehicle will feel sharper and more responsive.
  • ONCE THIS PROCEDURE IS COMPLETE THE TOOL IS LOCKED TO THE VEHICLES VIN. DO NOT PLUG INTO ANY OTHER VEHICLE AS THIS MAY CAUSE DAMAGE
 
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