for people looking at creations motorsport TIP.. look inside before you buy

[blackmagic20vt]

In terms of 80mm TIPs for K04 cars, I am without question the one who has sold the most.... and why is this.?

Its a proven, engineered product which designed and tested to get the results it achieves (without question) - the initial V2 product then gets Blatently Copied by CM, who do the same with MANY other engineered products. They innovate NOTHING, they ride on the backs of others who spent much time, effort and £ developing the products, to then simply "copy".. During said copying they make them from lesser quality materials to a lesser standard - Facts.. The products dont originate from Germany, but from a Low Cost country by its end price point and the quality of materials very clearly demonstrates.


Regarding the brakes I dont recall YOU nor the conversation, but suspect you were after brackets for some random porsche brembo caliper, and wanting me to supply something which would fit. Not something I could ever confirm given the variance there are on the porsche brembo calipers.

You will not have been the first nor last to ask such questions.. to which I cannot answer NOT KNOWING what particular caliper you may or may not have had. This I say without recollection of your conversation but is typical of what I get asked.. I can only confirm the brackets I make are suited to the kits I use them in which are based around Brembo GT Junior caliper.. Perhaps this may jog your memory of the conversation.

YOUR attitude is the one which stinks I'm afraid

I am not denying you created the 80mm TIP and not denying CM or SFS copied you, let it go man you are like a dog with the bit between its teeth. Although unless you have records for all company sales that have copied you how can you prove you have sold the most this is an irrelevant quote and made up stick to actual facts please.

I also don’t agree these company make money on the back off you they provide an alternative to the customer for example a friend of mine on uk-mkivs.net has a AUM/AUQ TIP off CM with a 3" MAF end on his hybrid turbo car with a S3 MAF housing show me another company in the world that does such a TIP?

SFS also do many other products as well as the 80mm TIP have they made money off everyone else or are they providing an alternative to other manufacturers?

Taking my personal issue aside and our discussions over the phone earlier in the year aside what bothers me the most is that you are using ethnicity as a medium to discredit other companies on forums when their ethnicity has no bearing on a product or its quality most of things in the UK are either from China India clothing from Bangladesh etc even the phone in your pocket and luckily for us most of the country are living in the 21st century and do not judge others on ethnicity and again you assume products sold by Asian sales people are made in India or whatever you are spouting on other forums when the company is German and this where my issue is these are not facts but things branded about with your personal issues about the 80mm TIP being copied grow a pair please as its actually embarrassing when you go down this route. This is something you conveniently forgot to address in my post.

Having said the above my estimations of you as Tuner hasn’t degraded it’s just the labelling of a company with the ethnicity of the staff it employs that bugs me and in this day and age there is no room for it in society.

And by the way I am not like the other people on threads where they like to take a boot in and jump on the bandwagon if I say something give you facts its because I actually take the time to review and check products and actually test them. A few years ago Forge reckoned I couldn't get temps low as theirs on a ebay intercooler core and theirs was far superior after all it was £500 more and they gave me all the technical Jargon on why theirs was better than my ebay special put together? How wrong they were....

I prefer to stick to facts and if a company is offering me lifetime warranty on their silicone hoses then how can they be that bad with lifetime warranty if they wanted to make a quick buck?

That will be my last post on this thread and keep chugging along and innovating

Sorry to original poster for hi jacking your thread.....

 

[mty12345]

Taking my personal issue aside and our discussions over the phone earlier in the year aside what bothers me the most is that you are using ethnicity as a medium to discredit other companies on forums when their ethnicity has no bearing on a product or its quality most of things in the UK are either from China India clothing from Bangladesh etc even the phone in your pocket and luckily for us most of the country are living in the 21st century and do not judge others on ethnicity and again you assume products sold by Asian sales people are made in India or whatever you are spouting on other forums when the company is German and this where my issue is these are not facts but things branded about with your personal issues about the 80mm TIP being copied grow a pair please as its actually embarrassing when you go down this route. This is something you conveniently forgot to address in my post.

Having said the above my estimations of you as Tuner hasn’t degraded it’s just the labelling of a company with the ethnicity of the staff it employs that bugs me and in this day and age there is no room for it in society.

Sorry to original poster for hi jacking your thread.....

F*ck off, don't start the "race card" sh*t just because you've got no arguement that stands up.
Didn't really want to get involved but twats like you wind me right up

 

[BigJase88]

Bored of reading about TIP's now!

They do nowt anyways!

 

[traumapat]

F*ck off, don't start the "race card" sh*t just because you've got no arguement that stands up.
Didn't really want to get involved but twats like you wind me right up

Spot on.

 

[ibizacupra]

I'm not debating that. I'm saying that it looks like the pipe was not trimmed, and has been fitted under stress.

yep, quite possibly..
some folks dont realise trimming is required..

It should'nt make it delaminate however, thats material failure.. Not autoclaved properly, poor grade materials or some such screw up.

its muchos tight on k03 fitment... damned coolant pipe so so close to the turbo inlet and the turbos nose is short and for the main, shrouded by its compressor cover. Tricky little bar steward I know..

 

[ibizacupra]

Well you can say its bad customer service from badger but he is here day in, day out giving free advise to people all the time while still tuning cars and running a business. Trying to help others solve problems and common issues without any charge.

Creation are down the down road from me, i've driven into the rear of the workshop by chance and there was some nice cars there incuding golf r32 turbos or supercharged and a few other nice cars.

Badgers main line of work is not to create products, do quality testing, reports etc so its only wise to outsource this to someone who does specialise in it. I think you will find this is how the majority of the retail industry works...

True..

I am not a manufacturer.. I will make the prototypes, do the designs and testing, and then use trusted suppliers to make the production items.. I am a one man band pretty much most of the time. Billets are CNC machined by my good friend nige in Cheltenham, and are lovely pukka precision items... silicon hoses are made fo rme by siliconhoses.com who make Forges hose, are local to me in Gloucester and are very sound guys I have good relationship with. Much as the CM copying my V2 narks me, as it does others who's products they have also copied, it is what it is... Thats the kind of company they are.. Meh.. what can I do.. What I will say is despite competition from others larger bore tips, the Badger5 ones, V2.2 and V3's shift at a healthy rate to many folks, so somethings going ok despite the personal "annoyance" of the likes of copyists. Make a good product, test the crap out of it during development, show folks its real gains, get solid quality and sensible price point and it will find customers. I remain shocked how many TIPs for k04 cars I have sold since the original 3" V1 item... where do they all go?? lol

I remain an enthusiast who happens to have turned hobby into his livelyhood, and "enjoy" helping folks out on forums/facebook/workshop and tuning cars... When some folks keep having pops at me however for irrelevant nonsense it riles me up.. I am but human, but I will defend attacks on my reputation and products to the Death!....

anyhows.. I hope this concludes the nonsense debate on this particular thread.

cheers
bill

 

[ReDBull]

Wasn't ment to be arsy if that's the way it was perceived. Internet allows no emotion lol.

I will be changing to a v2.2 just for the rep and the bad stories I have seen with the cm so far mine is ok thankfully but I won't run the risk long term. My own impatience is the only reason I brought it and was set on the Sfs or badger.

I have learnt my lesson

No I didn't take it as being arsy. I re read what I'd put and realised I could of worded it better.

 

[ReDBull]

Don't SFS make an K03 TIP to fit the 80mm MAF?

 

[spanner87]

im waiting on my SFS oversize to arrive so will provide logs vs the CM when it arrives,just got to sort an overboosting problem now... first mass underboosting and now soft limp overboosting in 3rd+ over 5k rpm... grrrrr

 

[BoostHard]

im waiting on my SFS oversize to arrive so will provide logs vs the CM when it arrives,just got to sort an overboosting problem now... first mass underboosting and now soft limp overboosting in 3rd+ over 5k rpm... grrrrr

Join the club, Mines doing the exact same thing

 

[CupraRmark]

F*ck off, don't start the "race card" sh*t just because you've got no arguement that stands up.
Didn't really want to get involved but twats like you wind me right up

Top fella for the above getting very tired of a company bitch fight lol......


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[spanner87]

Join the club, Mines doing the exact same thing

I'm wondering if its because my car is pretty much stage two but om.a stage 1 map,it absolutely flies for a stg1 with maf readings peaking at 185g/s
Possibilities of excess airflow for the map? Or am I chatting **** lol

 

[wild willy]

I'm wondering if its because my car is pretty much stage two but om.a stage 1 map,it absolutely flies for a stg1 with maf readings peaking at 185g/s
Possibilities of excess airflow for the map? Or am I chatting **** lol

If the new tip is allowing unrestricted flow of air unlike the kinked original you may now be overboosting due to excess air flow. As you improve the flow of air into the turbo you improve the efficiency of the turbo. A custom remap or boost controller connected in parallel with your existing n75 will sort this.

 

[tom t]

When you say boost controller do you mean an electronic type? Or the simple ball bearing and spring type?

 

[wild willy]

ball bearing and spring type.

 

[spanner87]

Will the mbc set to 22psi (my max boost) stop overboosting to redline though? My ecu requests 14psi at redline and spikes 15-16 occasionally causing soft limp

 

[bkingb]

there should be a test on all tips via dyno so people knows how much gains they are getting

 

[j976rna]

ive had the lc and the lcr, the tip on the k03 was a right bar steward to fit,as bill said,coolant pipe in the way and was very tight,lots of pulling swearing and knuckle scraping,
I wasnt looking forward to fitting the forge tip on my lcr, it literally took me 10 mins,nothing in the way,like on the k03

 

[nd-photo.nl]

Damn LC180 then

Im driving with a SFS Overbore TIP after having a Toyosports one for some time now. The SFS is way impressive, much thicker material and better quality overall. Also I gained about 6BHP when logging MAF. I've tried dozens of times with the Toyosports TIP and couldnt get it past 220BHP. First try with SFS TIP: 226BHP...

Look at the difference:


SFS Big Bore/Overbore TIP by ND-Photo.nl, on Flickr


SFS Overbore vs Volksbits by ND-Photo.nl, on Flickr


Volksbits diameter by ND-Photo.nl, on Flickr


SFS TIP Diameter by ND-Photo.nl, on Flickr

 

[spanner87]

Damn LC180 then

Im driving with a SFS Overbore TIP after having a Toyosports one for some time now. The SFS is way impressive, much thicker material and better quality overall. Also I gained about 6BHP when logging MAF. I've tried dozens of times with the Toyosports TIP and couldnt get it past 220BHP. First try with SFS TIP: 226BHP...

Look at the difference:


SFS Big Bore/Overbore TIP by ND-Photo.nl, on Flickr


SFS Overbore vs Volksbits by ND-Photo.nl, on Flickr


Volksbits diameter by ND-Photo.nl, on Flickr


SFS TIP Diameter by ND-Photo.nl, on Flickr

Wow awesome input mate,thanks!I'm already seeing maf figures at 186g/s (roughly 236hp)on a stage two map with smic, since. fitted a decat and forge 008 and soon to be fitting a fmic and the sfs oversize ,need my map tweaking to stop surging then I will post results if anybody is interested.