Fuel consumption

Mark_86

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Curious to know... what are people getting from a tank on the 245 e-Hybrid? I see it only has a 40 litre tank...
 
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ninja_geezer

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So, I did some testing on this - and after a brief placebo phase where I THOUGHT I was getting better mpg and power on 99, I did 10 separate runs, 4 of them on 99, and 6 on 95, and the fuel economy was within 1-2% - basically no difference at all when you consider the slight variances in the trips etc. After going back to 95 from 99, I also did not notice a decrease in power.

My advice is to stick with 95.
you will notice the power if you did back to back dyno runs ,makes quite a difference as well, it even says in the owner's manual you can run on 95 ron but it will decrease power.there was a great video on youtube using a golf gti showing this on a dyno ,back to back runs flushing the fuel out both times.i will try and find it and post a link
 

AndyCupra93

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you will notice the power if you did back to back dyno runs ,makes quite a difference as well, it even says in the owner's manual you can run on 95 ron but it will decrease power.there was a great video on youtube using a golf gti showing this on a dyno ,back to back runs flushing the fuel out both times.i will try and find it and post a link

Please do - I’d be surprised to see even 5% difference in figures!
 

Mark_86

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I guess if you are not flushing the tank and running it to empty, you'll have a mix of 99 & 95 in the tank... so probably skews your test.
 

ninja_geezer

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Please do - I’d be surprised to see even 5% difference in figures!
Andy i've found an old video but cannot find the latest one i watched i will keep digging. on a golf GTI i think in the test it was about 5 or 6 bhp more but i've seen one that makes about 5% if that's the case the formentor is tested power wise on 99 ron so that drops it from 310 down to 294 not massive but the more power an engine makes the more the difference.i always on any kind of performance type car use 99 ron have for years .one of the things you are asked before any kind of tuning is what fuel is in it !
i guess if you pootle about there is no difference ..i like to squeeze the most out of a cars performance... plus if it really does have additives' for a cleaner better burn what harm can it do ,only your pocket i guess. ;)

 
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Hey Guys - New to the forum + Collecting my VZ1 Hybrid on Sunday. Just wondering what kind of motorway mpg people are getting over say 100 miles when setting off with a fully charged battery?
 
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Hey Guys - New to the forum + Collecting my VZ1 Hybrid on Sunday. Just wondering what kind of motorway mpg people are getting over say 100 miles when setting off with a fully charged battery?
Welcome mate, if you do a quick search there has been some discussion on this.
 
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AndyCupra93

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How many of us have been forced to put V+ or equivalent due to lack of choice recently? I’ve just had the pleasure of filling up with £80 worth of it.

On that note, fuel economy figures are probably going to look rather good at the moment with more conservative driving.
 

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How many of us have been forced to put V+ or equivalent due to lack of choice recently? I’ve just had the pleasure of filling up with £80 worth of it.

On that note, fuel economy figures are probably going to look rather good at the moment with more conservative driving.
Only had the choice of 95. Funny when I filled up the first time with super + with same amount left in tank fuel range went up to 400. This time 340!! Saying that it hasn’t gone down in the last 30miles.
 

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I do eco driving at 60mph on motorways at the moment, because it's difficult to say when I will fill up next time. Got 40mpg on last drive, so no shocking difference. Still driving on 95, as I topped up the car before panic started.
 

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How many of us have been forced to put V+ or equivalent due to lack of choice recently? I’ve just had the pleasure of filling up with £80 worth of it.

On that note, fuel economy figures are probably going to look rather good at the moment with more conservative driving.
In my case, I've not been able to put in V-Power, which has been my habit in every car I've owned in the past 20 years. Might be the opportunity I need to break the habit.
 

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I had a 160 mile round trip to Berkshire yesterday, using mostly motorway and dual carriageway: M25, M3, A329M and M4. Circumstances meant we had to drive pretty slowly on the way there, so l used it as an opportunity to see how economical the VZ2 could be when not using all the available power. The outward journey took an hour and forty minutes, averaging around 47mph, and the average consumption showed on board was 42mpg. Traffic was much freer for the return trip, took about twenty minutes less, averaging closer to 60mph, and 36mpg. Both of those were primarily cruising runs, with few reasons to use a heavy throttle. It’s good to know that, when I’m not in hooligan mode, this high performance car can also be quite frugal.
 

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I had a 160 mile round trip to Berkshire yesterday, using mostly motorway and dual carriageway: M25, M3, A329M and M4. Circumstances meant we had to drive pretty slowly on the way there, so l used it as an opportunity to see how economical the VZ2 could be when not using all the available power. The outward journey took an hour and forty minutes, averaging around 47mph, and the average consumption showed on board was 42mpg. Traffic was much freer for the return trip, took about twenty minutes less, averaging closer to 60mph, and 36mpg. Both of those were primarily cruising runs, with few reasons to use a heavy throttle. It’s good to know that, when I’m not in hooligan mode, this high performance car can also be quite frugal.

Not sure if I am strange but when I am on the motorway, I tend to sit at 60mph anyway. It's less tiring and I always plan my journeys to know what time I will arrive somewhere (traffic depending). It's nice to know that on my longer journeys it will return pretty impressive results, not that I am buying it for the mpg, of course.

Funnily enough, my partner needed a bigger car so we just bought a Mazda CX-5 2.2D (175hp) - The claimed mpg was 60-65 and I did a 40 mile straight journey down the A419 at 60mph and could only squeeze about 44mpg! Quite disappointing but hey ho! :LOL:
 
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Not sure if I am strange but when I am on the motorway, I tend to sit at 60mph anyway. It's less tiring and I always plan my journeys to know what time I will arrive somewhere (traffic depending). It's nice to know that on my longer journeys it will return pretty impressive results, not that I am buying it for the mpg, of course.

Funnily enough, my partner needed a bigger car so we just bought a Mazda CX-5 2.2D (175hp) - The claimed mpg was 60-65 and I did a 40 mile straight journey down the A419 at 60mph and could only squeeze about 44mpg! Quite disappointing but hey ho! :LOL:

Very similar for me too. Less than 500 miles on the clock and driving mostly through 60mph limits.
Not too bad really…
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Very similar for me too. Less than 500 miles on the clock and driving mostly through 60mph limits.
Not too bad really…
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That's awesome considering my current 2.0D BMW does about 45mpg. I'd be happy with anything over 35mpg. I imagine this figure will increase with proper service intervals and more mileage 👍
 
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I had a 160 mile round trip to Berkshire yesterday, using mostly motorway and dual carriageway: M25, M3, A329M and M4. Circumstances meant we had to drive pretty slowly on the way there, so l used it as an opportunity to see how economical the VZ2 could be when not using all the available power. The outward journey took an hour and forty minutes, averaging around 47mph, and the average consumption showed on board was 42mpg. Traffic was much freer for the return trip, took about twenty minutes less, averaging closer to 60mph, and 36mpg. Both of those were primarily cruising runs, with few reasons to use a heavy throttle. It’s good to know that, when I’m not in hooligan mode, this high performance car can also be quite frugal.
Yeah I've said for a while it is reassuring that when you want/ need to it can be relatively economical. A lot of people have been struggling to get anywhere near these figures but personally I've not had a problem with getting 40 mpg on long journeys. Can be a comfortable cruiser with family and then an antisocial hooligan when You want it to. Like you I didn't buy this car for the mpg but good it has a decent mpg return in its locker.
 

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Yeah I've said for a while it is reassuring that when you want/ need to it can be relatively economical. A lot of people have been struggling to get anywhere near these figures but personally I've not had a problem with getting 40 mpg on long journeys. Can be a comfortable cruiser with family and then an antisocial hooligan when You want it to. Like you I didn't buy this car for the mpg but good it has a decent mpg return in its locker.
I've never gotten even close to 40 mpg - that's about 7.1 l/100 and I think the best I got on a sedate run was about 8.3 l/100 or 34 mpg... that was a 80km round trip on B roads here doing between 90-110 the whole way.
 
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caloomba

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I did my first long run in the car yesterday (1.4 eHybrid 204 V2) - 320 mile round trip, 270 or so of those miles on motorway/dual carriageway.

I was quite suprised to see how much fuel it consumed despite the fact I left home with 100% battery ( also managed to top up a bit on the way there due to a last-minute cancelled meeting) and my dirving style is very gentle - I avoid sport mode and sit approx 65mph in cruise control on motorways.

I kept approx 40% battery to do the last 15 miles of the journey on e-motor and it was in hybrid mode as much as possible.

By the end of the journey, the stated mpg was approx 44. Surely I should be seeing higher when I have used hybrid and e-motor?

The car has only done 800 miles in total, so I appreciate it's still settling in and the fuel mpg should improve a bit.

Any thoughts on this?
 

rafletcher

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Yep, figures quoted by manufacturers should win the Pulitzer prize for fiction. All their tests are done in a temperature controlled environment (for parity with others), meaning no wind or rain, very low rolling resistance on a rolling road, tyres pumped up hard, panel gaps taped, no turning, computer controlled (verrrrryyy sloooowww) acceleration and braking etc. etc.. It's an exercise is maximising figures, to minimise what they as a whole need to do to keep overall emissions down, and also consumption. It's also why you'll see instances where, for example, a car is specced with a spacesaver spare - until you add the pan roof, whereabout it suddently has no spare - that's to keep weight and therefore emissions and consumption down.
 

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I did my first long run in the car yesterday (1.4 eHybrid 204 V2) - 320 mile round trip, 270 or so of those miles on motorway/dual carriageway.

I was quite suprised to see how much fuel it consumed despite the fact I left home with 100% battery ( also managed to top up a bit on the way there due to a last-minute cancelled meeting) and my dirving style is very gentle - I avoid sport mode and sit approx 65mph in cruise control on motorways.

I kept approx 40% battery to do the last 15 miles of the journey on e-motor and it was in hybrid mode as much as possible.

By the end of the journey, the stated mpg was approx 44. Surely I should be seeing higher when I have used hybrid and e-motor?

The car has only done 800 miles in total, so I appreciate it's still settling in and the fuel mpg should improve a bit.

Any thoughts on this?

Hybrid doesn't really help you when you are on a motorway. Your speed is constant and you do not regenerate any energy as you don't really brake. Thus this trip where your mileage is dominated by 270 motorway miles with probably constant speed will equate to a normal petrol 1.4L car MPG.

Hybrid shines in stop and go traffic where it can regenerate energy normal cars lose via brakes.
 
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