getting rid of my MK4 Sport after 2 weeks of having it

[woozyuk]

I still love it however. But the Cambelt had to be done, it still needs bushes on both sides, and a new tyre after i got a big screw through the rear tyre. plus the wheel hubs were a bit rusty. I also likes the look of the MK5...

So i am part exchanging my MK4 for a 2013 (20,000 mile) MK5 5 door Toca. Test drove it and it was a lot smoother than my Sport MK4 due to the softer suspension but the ride was quieter too with not as much rattle.

Picking the car up later this week. Plus Seat's years free TAX helps, plus the MK5 is 130 pa tax xompared to the MK4's 180pa tax.

 

[Chino_UK]

That's the joys of an older vehicle I guess, it will need more maintenance, some of which like the belt is to be expected if the service history is present to be inspected.

 

[RUM4MO]

That's the joys of an older vehicle I guess, it will need more maintenance, some of which like the belt is to be expected if the service history is present to be inspected.

If the Toca has the 1.4 85PS engine, it will be wanting a new belt in a year or so - just a comment that is all!

 

[woozyuk]

it is the 85ps version

i cant win!

it has a years warrantee, but i guess it will need the belt just after the warrantee finishes?

 

[RUM4MO]

Yup, 4 years is what used to be suggested as a sensible change period. Daughter has a late 2009 1.4 85PS Ibiza SC SE which I am looking after for a year or two while she is working abroad, I quite like it as it is as light as anything when compared with wife's old late 2002 Polo 1.4 16v 75PS - a bit like driving a skate board with its 17" alloys! Wife now has new Polo 1.2TSI 110PS SEL - but I still quite like running around in the Ibiza, well until the ice and snow come, then it gets left alone and I use wife's car or my car both of which have winter tyres on at the moment. The later models of all these VAG cars that share that platform are lighter than the previous ones, which helps!

Other bonus with these later cars is that VAG has binned the annoying TCA bearing design and gone back to what the pre-2002 cars had - progress!

 

[BlackFR]

it is the 85ps version

i cant win!

it has a years warrantee, but i guess it will need the belt just after the warrantee finishes?

The belt wouldn't be under warranty, its just a service item like the yearly oil change would be etc. You obviously don't have to complete any servicing but by doing so you increase the risk of catastrophic failure which you would then have to pick up the bill for

 

[R3k1355]

You need to take more care buying cars buddy, unless you got the last sport at a discount knowing it's cam belt needed doing.

I can understand wanting a newer, less troublesome car - but you've dove down to 80 odd BHP from 130, that must suck pretty bad!

 

[RUM4MO]

You need to take more care buying cars buddy, unless you got the last sport at a discount knowing it's cam belt needed doing.

I can understand wanting a newer, less troublesome car - but you've dove down to 80 odd BHP from 130, that must suck pretty bad!

Maybe I've missed something, but the OP quoted 130pa road tax not 130PS engine.

 

[R3k1355]

They had a 130ps sport and now are knocking around in 85ps, yet claiming the car is better in every way.

 

[Arkaig]

IIRC it was a 16v and so it would be the 75ps petrol. Only the pre 2006 sport TDI was 130ps

 

[Chino_UK]

They did a version with the 1.4 16v 100bhp sport engine as well iirc? Either way, the point I was tyring to get at is unless you buy a car with a chain drive you will never escape routine maintenance such as timing belts etc, and should be wary of this and the intervals in effect when looking for cars.

 

[woozyuk]

dont really care if i lose BHP. the cars just to get me to work and weekend use. but im pretty sure my MK4 1.4 sport was 75 BHP, i beleive the 2007 sport just meant it had sporty trim, stiffer suspension and the alloy wheels. these days its not like u can use the full power as always stuck in traffic ques. granted the MK4 now has a nice new cambelt. Ill likeley still get the cambelt checked/done early 2016 on the 2013 MK5 plus the MK4 needed the suspension bushes done and a tyre replaced on one of the main wheels and ill get my tax back on the mk4 so im saving a few hundred there.

EDIT: i also have a Haynes manual for the MK4. brand new, got it the week i got the MK4 before i decided t trade it in. If someone can pay the Postage and half the cost of the manual itself they can buy it as i dont think its any use for a MK5?

 

[R3k1355]

IIRC it was a 16v and so it would be the 75ps petrol. Only the pre 2006 sport TDI was 130ps

Didn't realise they kept the name going, I just through Sport became FR.

the point I was tyring to get at is unless you buy a car with a chain drive you will never escape routine maintenance such as timing belts etc, and should be wary of this and the intervals in effect when looking for cars.

That is until it turns out the chain tensioner is a bag of **** and fails anyway, so you find yourself replacing **** on the cam drive at 70K anyway, thinking away to yourself "why bother if you can't make it correctly in the first place???"

 

[woozyuk]

well i got the MK5 1.4 Toca (2013) now.


its pretty different to the MK4 i had imho, it feels different for sure. The sport i had was lower, had a larger steering wheel and 16" wheels and handled corners in the dry great and could go around them pretty quickly it also had the dimming rear view mirror which i was surprised wasnt on the new one.

but the ride is quieter, smoother and feels more compact. love the satnav and how it integrates with the car. The fuel tank seems to hole more. i am sure i nearly filled up the mark 4 quicker than it took the MK5 1.4.

Im very please with the MK5 but im going to miss a few things that i got used to in the short while i had the MK4 1.4 sport