Hi folks im buying a very cheap ihi vf24 it need a rebuild...i wanna know what bhp do they give standard and how much would it cost to hybrid it??
jamiebennett81
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from what others have said, they are not a great turbo to be taking apart. Not sure you would be giving it hybrid treatment, but certianly a refurb
I am always very sceptical about 2nd hand (which I presume it is) high performance turbo
where has or what has it come off, and how much are you paying for it?
buying a cheap IHI turbo is just the start of a big cost.......have you got the other supporting mods? are you going to peg the power to save on internals, or going the full monty? where and who will be fitting/mapping? lots to think about....
unless doing the work yourself, you are looking at 4k easily without internals....and at least 8k with internals
hybrid or at least a refurb I would suspect would at least be around £500
EDIT: not sure as just seen on your signature, but does a twin pass intercooler cope with big power?
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its come off my mates subaru impreza witch was running 1.2 bar of boost, he said it needs new oil seals and could do with a refurb, he said i can have it for £40, my twin pass fmic can support 450bhp and standard internals can support approx 350bhp and i want to see 330-340bhp at the fly is it possible with that turbo?
jamiebennett81
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its not just the oil seals, you need to check for hairline cracks etc in the exhaust housing and any play in the shaft
yes standard internals can cope to 350, but I would not want to go any further than 330bhp IMO
I dont know how clued up you are on this, so please dont take offense like I am talking to you like an idiot, but you are aware of the cost and other supporting modifcations you need? i.e. you have done a lot of research into this.
I made this mistake once, and soon realised the work and cost required to run this sort of power
also, what is the mileage on your car?
have you considered going down the hybrid k03s route?
thought abought the k03s hybrid but im only gunna get a max of 270ish bhp at the fly as i want around 260-280ish at the wheels
jamiebennett81
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your just talking about "numbers" though
it is how it drives on the road is the important thing
remember the VF wont be on full boost till at least 3500, as where the hybrid k03s will be on full boost by around 2800 and will continue till around 6500, which makes a good driveable road car
I would suggest looking at what driving style suits you instead of chasing figures.....
your just talking about "numbers" though
it is how it drives on the road is the important thing
remember the VF wont be on full boost till at least 3500, as where the hybrid k03s will be on full boost by around 2800 and will continue till around 6500, which makes a good driveable road car
I would suggest looking at what driving style suits you instead of chasing figures.....
i knw wat u mean mate but it aint gunna keep up with my mates ford st or my other 2 mates with scoobys push 330bhp and 380bhp
jamiebennett81
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so you are basing the whole build and setup, because of what power your friends cars are pushing.......
well yeh and i wanna go past them quick lol but there power is there till redline!!!
jamiebennett81
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A big turbo Leon will walk all over a tuned ST, any day of the week. You can take about 100bhp worth of transmission losses away from the 2 scoobys also. A hybrid K03s would quite happily deal with any of the cars you speak of in my opinion. Your 1.8T engine is in a different league to any of them. The 20 valve head ensures far greater flexibility than the Subaru or Volvo (in the Focus ST) engines can manage, so long as you don't hamstring it with a dirty big turbo that isn't on full boost until 4k rpm.
The mythical 350bhp breaking point of the standard internals is also complete nonsense, 350lbs/ft of torque is where I'd consider changing the rods. A properly mapped 1.8T on a hybrid K03s turbo with Water Methanol Injection will be a very flexible and very fast car. Reliability will be much better than IHI or GT series turbos can offer.
The K03 hybrid sounds nice - just imagine what a K04 hybrid would be like...
K03s hybrid is a better turbo, all of the flow of the K04 hybrid with less lag.
That can't be right. I'd understand if it was 'all the flow of the K04 and less lag', but surely the K04-hybrid has a lot more potential?
this makes for very interesting reading as i have considered upgrading the turbo on my LCR. well not so much considered but more wondered what is involved..ie other mods that need doing, cost, end result and indeed what turbo is best?
1. what turbo is it on a standard LCR?
2. what are the options to upgrade to?
3. other than FMIC and another remap is there anything else i would need to do or is it case of bolting the new turbo in place of the old one?
excuse me if im interupting or if i should have started a new thread
1. what turbo is it on a standard LCR?
2. what are the options to upgrade to?
3. other than FMIC and another remap is there anything else i would need to do or is it case of bolting the new turbo in place of the old one?
excuse me if im interupting or if i should have started a new thread
jamiebennett81
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this makes for very interesting reading as i have considered upgrading the turbo on my LCR. well not so much considered but more wondered what is involved..ie other mods that need doing, cost, end result and indeed what turbo is best?
1. what turbo is it on a standard LCR?
2. what are the options to upgrade to?
3. other than FMIC and another remap is there anything else i would need to do or is it case of bolting the new turbo in place of the old one?
excuse me if im interupting or if i should have started a new thread
a search will help you there chief, this has been covered multiple times
in terms of reliability, and a fast road going car, this is the route I am going down now
if you dont know much about the IHI route and what is needed, I would advise sticking to as OEM as possible
in terms of reliability, and a fast road going car, this is the route I am going down now
if you dont know much about the IHI route and what is needed, I would advise sticking to as OEM as possible
alright kwl i will have a look in2 it what about a t28 coversion as the parts ive found are cheaper to source than a k04 turbo,mani etc...!!!
jamiebennett81
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the best advice I can give you is dont do "cheap" because if you do, then expect a lot of issues
buy cheap, buy twice
get a proper, tried and tested kit, that works. For a hybrid k03s, you are looking around 3k for a full install
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