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What is your particular flavour of V8 Dash? ?
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What is your particular flavour of V8 Dash? ?
Mustang Modular V8, but in a MG ZT re-engineered by Prodrive for MGR, reworked drivetrain (obviously), suspension by Bilstein and Eibach, rear brakes by AP from the front of the Lotus Elise. Bonkers idea really, but a great fun car. They made just under 900 including some 160 Rover 75 V8s with auto gearbox, in both saloon and estate before MGR went pop.
Your particular V8 flavour?
Keeping the Formentor 310 company we currently have a Mustang 5.0 droptoo to keep Mrs Stallyn Happy ?
Had a yellow GT with full on Borla setup that sounded like you were being chased by a heard of Wild Elephants
fake sound is pain to the butt and ears , its just outright unnecessary and irritating, got to find a way to eliminate it from cupra/sport mode, seen above it can be done through obd 11, I' ll give it a try at some point. So far in order to not have this awful sound in my ears when in cupra/sport mode I go to individual mode settings and set it all in cupra/sport mode except the engine sound which I set in comfort mode but this is annoying to be doing every time.
Well good news! It's very easy to do with obd11, but it does take quite a lot of the character away to have it completely off tbh.
It's so loud in CUPRA mode by default that it obscures the real engine, in Sport mode the Soundaktor is at 30% volume in the background. Comfort is completely off, but so are the exhaust valves.
My current thoughts are; try have it at 50% volume, in parity with the real engine, or have it completely off. Reason being, I don't need 5 driving modes, I just need two, full sports or full eco/comfort - surely there has to be a reason to hold the convenient satellite button, which is not just the sound but also the start/stop and gearbox too. I feel like turning the individual mode into a patched CUPRA mode is a bit of a waste, but each to their own!
Update,
Had to go collect some wedding stuff for my son yesterday, my wife came with me and she has finally given in that the car is exceptionally noisy. By the time we got home she commented on it being very noisy.
So, this was mainly on motorway @ 120kph.
When I cam off the Mway the speed limit was 100 which I stuck to, no improvement. Then there were sections of that road that were different finish and the car was literally silent. Based on this I have come to the conclusion that it is cut backs on soundproofing from the factory.
This is something I am going to do.
Where do I start? In the boot? Cabin floor? Doors?
How many skins? what mm? Am I right in thinking 10mm is better than 2mm ?
Any advice gratefully appreciated.
Had to go collect some wedding stuff for my son yesterday, my wife came with me and she has finally given in that the car is exceptionally noisy. By the time we got home she commented on it being very noisy.
So, this was mainly on motorway @ 120kph.
When I cam off the Mway the speed limit was 100 which I stuck to, no improvement. Then there were sections of that road that were different finish and the car was literally silent. Based on this I have come to the conclusion that it is cut backs on soundproofing from the factory.
This is something I am going to do.
Where do I start? In the boot? Cabin floor? Doors?
How many skins? what mm? Am I right in thinking 10mm is better than 2mm ?
Any advice gratefully appreciated.
You have to do the wheel arches first, then the doors and the boot, however this will improve quite a lot your infotainment sound more than the tire noise. Do it anyway, even if it does not improve the tire noise by much it will improve the sound system acoustics. Unfortunately big part in car sound insulation is played by the window and windscreen glasses, which unless from factory there is no way in improving them. Glass thickness and special absorbing compounds are reserved usually for more expensive cars, thicker glass is also adding weight on the car , wear on the window motors, as such more expensive and heavier motors are required and so on. All this adds to the cost of the car, adds weight , increases consumption , decreases perormance and this is a negative marketing tool for the carmaker to deal with more than tire noise!On the other hand, not lot of people are bothered that much of that tire noise coming into the cabin, as in performance/sporty oriented cars such as the Formentor , with wide low profile tires, on a budget for everyone to afford, it is something to be expected. Meantime play your music louder, it will help!
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I have the same disappointment with my Octavia equipped with the s***ty tires provide by the factory: GoodYear Efficient Grip Performance. Those sing a different song for each different asphalt texture. They can be impressively quiet on some roads...
There's a different story with the tires I fitted for winter: Bridgestone Blizzak LM005. Normally, those should be noisier than the G-Y (looking at tech. specs), but I found them to be a lot quieter an the very same roads.
So one factor is the tire quality and of course another one is the poor soundproofing.
As @pkaps already mentioned, I'd start with the wheel arches (in my case the noise is clearly coming from the front wheels). Not sure how your cars are built, but I had a look at my (future) Formentor when it arrived at the dealership: the front wheel arch protection is made of crappy/noisy plastic, while the back ones are better; not sure what's the material called, but it's the textured one used on most modern cars - with clear better insulation properties. I can't see why it's not the same on the front arches - but that's where you should start soundproofing in my opinion.
Have a look at this Octavia topic; I know it's a different car (not actually that much different...), but you might find some useful tips there (materials to use, car regions to insulate etc.) - some of those guys did an impressive job:
Sound deadening project
Although the Octavia has a decent noise profile from factory, I decided it would be worthwhile attempting to soundproof it a little more. The usual culprits, the boot and rear seat, were first in line. The large metal surfaces in the boot had only some small pieces of deadening material on them f...
www.briskoda.net
When you say wheel arches. Do you mean the plastic liners or the metal arch interior?
Another, quick fix is to pick some of your favourite tunes and...
Pump Up the Volume ??
Don't know about @pkaps , but I was referring to the black plastic (or whatever the other material is) protections that are directly facing the tires.
Have a look at that link from briskoda - there are plenty of pictures.
the in between the outside plastic liners , which have to be removed, and the fender inside bare metal
Same with me. My winter tires which came with car (I think some Michelin) make less road noise than summer tiers. Current summer tiers I got from leasing (Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric 3) are mach nosier. It seems like Formentor is sensitive to tire/road noise and it is easily transferred to cabin.
I also find that this tire is much noisier on some types on asphalt but I didn't had that issue with winter tiers.
Because of the business I drive multiple cars from time to time and I don't have this issue with any other car.
So to fix this we need to find right tire model.
Different tires wont help much, different car model maybe
, its all about insulating from factory and especially the glass areas, from where most noise comes into the cabin. Wide, low profile tires, low seat position, car factory insulation on a budget, are hard to overcome but also it is to be expected in this price range considering what the car offers. Got to get used to it, I also came from a relatively silent car but had to live with the new reality as it is good on almost every other aspect. No perfect car, always you have to give up some in order to take up some.
Not entirely correct.Different tires wont help much, different car model maybe
In my opinion there is no excuse for the noise in this cabin. As I stated in my original post, I have come from owning 2 Seat Ateca FR+ models and they were luxury compared to this.
'different car model maybe
' , I said so! Maybe the Ateca on the MQB A1 platform, vs the MQB Evo platform for the Formentor, being more family oriented/not that sporty and most possibly sitting on narrower higher profile different specs tires, is a lot quiter but you cannot really compare them as they are 2 almost completely different cars and what stands for one may not stand for the other and vice versa.
Tyres were same size.'different car model maybe
So do you feel soundproofing would help a lot ?
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it will help your sound system for sure but only marginally the cabin noise. To me its not worth the trouble (taking apart wheel arches, doors, trunk, adding weight, cost, etc) unless you really want to improve the acoustics of the sound system, as in this case its like a bonus getting a bit less road noise in the cabin. As i told you before, it happens mainly on rough pavements, if you mainly drive on those you are out of luck, you just have to pump up the volume by little and get used to it. With the Ateca you also sat higher up I think, the Formentor is not like that as you sit lower and the lower you sit the more road noise in the cabin.
There must be something wrong with your car, there’s no way in earth I’d ever call the Formentor noisy, whether it be on electric or petrol or in Cupra mode. I think you should go and drive another example for comparison.
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