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Pro's: Cheap to run and insure (road tax on diesel £35 a year). Lots of parts interchangable with the Lupo. 1.4tdi is deceptively quick, even more so with a remap. Good looking little car. Looks sportier than the Lupo, which is just to cute looking. They dont seem to have to many problems. But the best thing is the people you meet
, No one has any dellusions of grandure, we know are cars arent going to be Porshe beaters and we dont care.
Cons: They have a tendancy to attract Deer, Badgers and other woodland creatures, just ask Nic (lunalupi).
, No one has any dellusions of grandure, we know are cars arent going to be Porshe beaters and we dont care.Cons: They have a tendancy to attract Deer, Badgers and other woodland creatures, just ask Nic (lunalupi).
I was pretty suprised by the acceleration on the Arosa, you expect it to be really slow because of the small engine sizes but, they do respond quite nicely. The advantage of being able to fit lupo parts is an added bonus as you do spend quite a bit of time sourcing the parts or modifications that you want. The fuel consumption and low tax is a huge plus oh and their small so dead easy to park !
oh and their small so dead easy to park !
1 deer
2 foxes
5 rabbits
2 hedgehogs
i really should start to get what the WW2 fighter pilots had and a wee siloette of all the animals that have come acropper on the front of my car with a red line through them down the side of the car
Get a TDi! you wont look back to having a petrol car after
The only problems i can think of are related only to the 1.4 petrol. They are:
- The gearbox, its a weak link, and they are known for having problems, eventually ending up needing a rebuild. But of course, this wont happen with every one! Depends how it sbeen used etc.
- The pedal box, this snaps then you have no clutch pedal. Only the petrol 1.4 is affected. This is due to the fact that the diesel has a hydraulic clutch so it puts less pressure on the pedal box, since its lighter to press.
Ive never heard of a 1.4 TDI having pedal box problems. Neither have i a 1.0 either, which is odd.
It really depends on how you drive, where you drive and what you need it for.
The 1.4 is more of a thrashy engine, for example it sits at 4,000 RPM when your doing 72MPH. The TDi only sits at 2,500 RPM so its much more refined.
Once your doing anything more that town driving in a TDi you dont know its a diesel, it really is that good. Although there are noisey and quiet ones.
I seen to have found a quick quiet one, ive been in tow others and they arnt as quick and one is noisier. Although there isnt a huge difference in the speed difference, but its noticable.
TDi is group 4 insurance, and sports are 5. As said TDi tax is £35 a year, Sport is £115 i think.
There is also talk of the TDi getting free congestion charging, usuefull if you live near london and also may make them sell better. Although good ones at a good price sell like hot cakes!
IMO id get the TDi, but then i did
I get around 55-58MPG average and 70MPG on a run. Sports will do about 40 average i would think.
The best thing to do is try each and see which you like best
Depending on how much you want to spend depends on which model you get. ALl TDis are in the 'S' spec, which has:
- 14" Alloys
- RCL
- EW
- Passenegr air bag (only on MK2 Phase 2)
- CD player (only on MK2 Phase 2)
- ABS (only on MK2 Phase 2)
Sports add:
- 15" alloys (but only if you get a MK2 Phase 2, or u get the 14" 'S' wheels)
- Leather wheel
- Sporty seats
- Rear disc brakes (but same fronts as the TDI)
You can at a push remap a TDi up to 116/117 BHP, including different air intakes etc. Which would thrash a Sport! Since it has far more torque.
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The only problems i can think of are related only to the 1.4 petrol. They are:
- The gearbox, its a weak link, and they are known for having problems, eventually ending up needing a rebuild. But of course, this wont happen with every one! Depends how it sbeen used etc.
- The pedal box, this snaps then you have no clutch pedal. Only the petrol 1.4 is affected. This is due to the fact that the diesel has a hydraulic clutch so it puts less pressure on the pedal box, since its lighter to press.
Ive never heard of a 1.4 TDI having pedal box problems. Neither have i a 1.0 either, which is odd.
It really depends on how you drive, where you drive and what you need it for.
The 1.4 is more of a thrashy engine, for example it sits at 4,000 RPM when your doing 72MPH. The TDi only sits at 2,500 RPM so its much more refined.
Once your doing anything more that town driving in a TDi you dont know its a diesel, it really is that good. Although there are noisey and quiet ones.
I seen to have found a quick quiet one, ive been in tow others and they arnt as quick and one is noisier. Although there isnt a huge difference in the speed difference, but its noticable.
TDi is group 4 insurance, and sports are 5. As said TDi tax is £35 a year, Sport is £115 i think.
There is also talk of the TDi getting free congestion charging, usuefull if you live near london and also may make them sell better. Although good ones at a good price sell like hot cakes!
IMO id get the TDi, but then i did
I get around 55-58MPG average and 70MPG on a run. Sports will do about 40 average i would think.
The best thing to do is try each and see which you like best
Depending on how much you want to spend depends on which model you get. ALl TDis are in the 'S' spec, which has:
- 14" Alloys
- RCL
- EW
- Passenegr air bag (only on MK2 Phase 2)
- CD player (only on MK2 Phase 2)
- ABS (only on MK2 Phase 2)
Sports add:
- 15" alloys (but only if you get a MK2 Phase 2, or u get the 14" 'S' wheels)
- Leather wheel
- Sporty seats
- Rear disc brakes (but same fronts as the TDI)
You can at a push remap a TDi up to 116/117 BHP, including different air intakes etc. Which would thrash a Sport! Since it has far more torque.
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right you , enough of you and your durv burner bragging , i say go for a 1litre thats where the real power is
as for Sports with the 15" alloys , VERY few of them actually came with them on , it was only put on the 2003-2004sports and there were very few made *cough* i have a set as winter wheels and cant help but brag *cough*
, i say go for a 1litre thats where the real power is as for Sports with the 15" alloys , VERY few of them actually came with them on , it was only put on the 2003-2004sports and there were very few made *cough* i have a set as winter wheels and cant help but brag *cough*
right you , enough of you and your durv burner bragging
as for Sports with the 15" alloys , VERY few of them actually came with them on , it was only put on the 2003-2004sports and there were very few made *cough* i have a set as winter wheels and cant help but brag *cough*
But i also have a 1.0L and its great too
If only i could mix my two arosas together, since my 1.0 is silver (best colour IMO) and its got the dark interior, but my TDi is black and its a bu**er to keep clean (but it does look great when it is actually clean
), and its got the light interior. Im feeling an engine swap coming on If only it was that easy
Yeah you will be lucky to find a sport with those wheels on, they are only on late ones as Craig said. But they are very desirable. Think ill be on the look out for some for mine in a few months. Although i can imagain it will take more than a few months to locate some
ANY bad points about the TDi ?
very helpful wee forum here
I'd defo go for a TDi i think as the pedal box doesnt go! already replaced the box on mine AND gearbox rebuild (fortune)..
only thing that puts me off is the practicality of arosa's, like my subs in the back etc.. did i read somewhere that some have 5 seats and some 4?
cheers
?very helpful wee forum here
I'd defo go for a TDi i think as the pedal box doesnt go! already replaced the box on mine AND gearbox rebuild (fortune)..
only thing that puts me off is the practicality of arosa's, like my subs in the back etc..
did i read somewhere that some have 5 seats and some 4?cheers
ANY bad points about the TDi
very helpful wee forum here
I'd defo go for a TDi i think as the pedal box doesnt go! already replaced the box on mine AND gearbox rebuild (fortune)..
only thing that puts me off is the practicality of arosa's, like my subs in the back etc..
cheers
Hmm bad bit, bad bits. Well thats a difficult one
Noise maybe bad for some that dont like diesels, but its only noisey on tick over really, and then its not a bad noise, since its a 3 pot its a nice noise. And i love driving it quickly with the windoes down to hear the roar of the little engine
If your not used to driving a diesel then it might take you a little bit of getting used to, since it pulls at different times in the rev range and things, but you will soon adapt
TBH there isnt anything i would change about the engine, or my car inafact, it does everything i need it to. But there are no common problems on the TDi no.
Practicality wise, the Arosas boot is on the small side, however i have had loads in my car, a huge dog crate, a bike, and a huge desk (which wouldnt go in my mates clio!!!) - all with the seats folded of course.
But as for subs, there are some nice installs ive seen, but its not really something im into so i wouldnt know.
Anything else you need to know about TDis or arosas in general, just give me a shout
Also the TDi has lots of pull across more of the rev range.
Its a great motorway car, it accelerates from 50-70,80 etc no problem in 5th on the motorway.
And it does seem to suprise a few reps in their mondeos at how quickly it can do it.
Not that i go charging about or anything, its just a nice feeling of a bit of power. Even though its only 75BHP it pulls very well indeed.
Two people who have been in my car have liked it so much they have bought one themselves!
Its a great motorway car, it accelerates from 50-70,80 etc no problem in 5th on the motorway.
And it does seem to suprise a few reps in their mondeos at how quickly it can do it.
Not that i go charging about or anything, its just a nice feeling of a bit of power. Even though its only 75BHP it pulls very well indeed.
Two people who have been in my car have liked it so much they have bought one themselves!
lol you would make a good salesman!! also its 75hp pulling a tiny wee car
Been looking into Tdi's a bit and know a little about the rev's and torque, its the torque in my 1.4 8v that bugs me its so bad on hills and with a full car!
how much does a remap skin you?
Been looking into Tdi's a bit and know a little about the rev's and torque, its the torque in my 1.4 8v that bugs me its so bad on hills and with a full car!
how much does a remap skin you?
as for the 4 and 5 seats , it all comes down to the rear bench
as standard they are a 4 seater car however some on the continent had the option of a 5th seat . to be honest even with 4 in the car its a tight fit so 5 would be like sardines
as standard they are a 4 seater car however some on the continent had the option of a 5th seat . to be honest even with 4 in the car its a tight fit so 5 would be like sardines
bluearosatdi
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Am biased towards 1.4 TDi. Mines is surprisingly quick for a standard motor. My wife has a 1.4 16v (75 bhp ) Lupo & mines seriously destroys the Lupo in mid range, although Lupo feels quicker off the line. However I took my TDi from Edinburgh to Scotch Corner the long way around down the M6 and across the A66, with 2 kids , wife and squashy luggage in boot, and returned 66.5 mpg. Am considering a remap at some point which , with the torque increase will leave a Lupo GTi weeping for mercy !!! Enjoy which ever you pick.
lol you would make a good salesman!! also its 75hp pulling a tiny wee car
Been looking into Tdi's a bit and know a little about the rev's and torque, its the torque in my 1.4 8v that bugs me its so bad on hills and with a full car!
how much does a remap skin you?
I have thought about it!Well i went from my 1.0 Arosa to my TDi Arosa, when i first got the diesel it felt really quick to me as i was used to the 1.0S.
You can get a remap for around £300, although the garage i use for servicing has offered me one for £200, but thats because i know him. That would give me about 105BHP.
Jabbasport ones are more expensive, but they are tailored to your car so you get better results. Personally for what it is i think 105BHP with loads of torque would be enough.
Yeah, they are 4 seaters, i dont ever remember seeing a 5 seat arosa, but there are a couple of lupos around with a full 3 seat rear bench. But dont buy a lupo
If you really need 5 seats then you can probably buy the bench new from the dealers, although ive no idea how much that would be or where you would mount the 3rd seatbelt.
TBH 5 seaters arnt very practicle. There is enough room, just, since they are the same width as a Polo, and i think the side storage bins in the back are removed for a bit more room. But the seat does not split fold (a problem with a small boot) and they have 5 headrest which makes it hard to see behind you, unless you remover it of course.
So it works best as a 4 seater.
Although i have had 5 people in both of my arosas at one time or another. It was a bit uncomfortable for the middles passenegr but they squeezed in, just, and they were all very tall people.
My little 1.0 was struggling a bit with 5 in though
, but they TDi, you could hardly tell, even uphill it still pulled really well.Yeah, i think mine is quick for a standard one, its the fastest one ive been in.
One of my mates did have a 1.4 (75) Lupo too, mine felt so much quicker, so he swapped it for a TDi Lupo.
Thats very good MPG for a car full. The very best i have had is 74MPG, you just need to watch how you drive it. Getting that MPG was just me sitting at a constant 70MPH, not dropping below or accelerating over 70, for about 180 miles.
But in the end its up to you ScotlandToIbiza, the sport needs to be worked harder since the power comes in much later than the diesel, or indeed the 1.4 (75) petrol lupo engine.
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the new shape is the Mk2 arosa . they were made between 2001&2004 . however what you will notice is theres 2 phases of mk2 arosa , between 2001 & 2003 they had this habbit of fitting light grey interiors which mark and stain like a bugger then the phase 2 had a completely dark interior which is much more practical as it doesnt mark as easily
I have the 1.4 16v, its a nice fun car which certainly goes when you put your foot to the floor.
I carn't really say its had any major issues (it has had some but due to the milage i travel, its expected). Think a dodgy fuel pump has been the worse thing? Everything else been small things like window switches etc.
I love the car to bits and certainly a change from my first car which was a jeep (yes it was cheaper for me to insure a Suzuki jeep than a 1.0 fiesta when i was 17! - work that one out norich union!).
I'd recommend it to anyone. as for the whole VW/SEAT spares thing, I would say their on the steep side £££ and can be costly in places, well worth it tho.
All i can round it off with is; go for it!
I carn't really say its had any major issues (it has had some but due to the milage i travel, its expected). Think a dodgy fuel pump has been the worse thing? Everything else been small things like window switches etc.
I love the car to bits and certainly a change from my first car which was a jeep (yes it was cheaper for me to insure a Suzuki jeep than a 1.0 fiesta when i was 17! - work that one out norich union!).
I'd recommend it to anyone. as for the whole VW/SEAT spares thing, I would say their on the steep side £££ and can be costly in places, well worth it tho.
All i can round it off with is; go for it!
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