More power run logs - abit concerned

[Big_daddy]

Taught i done some power runs to see whats the car running as it abit cooler outside, since the last time i done it in the summer few months ago.

The temp outside was 10 degress

3rgd gear run

some didnt feel right when i was doing, as the turbo just felt abit dying out, plus is my timming abit high very high

Group A:	'003				Group B:	'020			
	Idle speed	Air mass in	Throt Angle	Ignit Angle		Idle Stabilization	Idle Stabilization	Idle Stabilization	Idle Stabilization
TIME	700-820 rpm	2.0-4.5 g/s	0.2-4.0%	0-12 BTDC	TIME				
STAMP	 /min	 g/s	%	°	STAMP	 CF	 CF	 CF	 CF
0	1680	10.44	7.8	18.8	0.34	0	0	0	0
0.74	1720	10.11	7.8	19.5	1.13	0	0	0	0
1.53	1880	30.69	38.8	19.5	1.93	0	0	0	0
2.33	2080	44.03	100	12.8	2.76	0	0	0	0
3.24	2480	62.44	100	12	3.73	0	0	0	0
4.13	2960	96.67	100	8.3	4.53	0	0	0	0
4.93	3440	132.06	100	6.8	5.33	6	6.8	6	8.3
5.73	3960	145.86	100	4.5	6.13	6	6.8	6	8.3
6.63	4480	155.22	100	5.3	7.03	6	6.8	6	7.5
7.45	4840	158.53	100	5.3	7.85	5.3	6	6	7.5
8.33	5200	163.67	100	7.5	8.74	5.3	6	5.3	6.8
9.24	5520	164.58	100	9	9.64	4.5	6	5.3	6.8
10.04	5720	165.56	99.6	10.5	10.44	4.5	5.3	4.5	6.8
10.84	6000	165.64	100	14.3	11.33	3.8	5.3	4.5	6
11.73	6240	166.25	100	15	12.41	3.8	4.5	3.8	6

Group A:	'115				Group B:	'031			
	Engine Speed	Engine Load	Spec. Boost	Actual Boost		Voltage	Voltage	Bin. Bits	Bin. Bits
TIME	700-6800 RPM	15-150%	990-1800 mbar	<=1800 mbar	TIME				
STAMP	 /min	%	 mbar	 mbar	STAMP	 V	 V		
0.38	2040	35.3	970	1020	0.78	0.145	0.12	        	        
1.18	2160	59.4	970	1040	1.58	0.715	0.675	        	        
2.08	2320	61.7	1220	1070	2.48	0.3	0.64	        	        
2.88	2600	110.5	2170	1460	3.39	0.67	0.655	        	        
3.79	3040	157.9	2230	2020	4.24	0.785	0.72	        	        
4.69	3560	191.7	2100	2420	5.18	0.86	0.81	        	        
5.58	4120	187.2	2070	2320	5.98	0.87	0.785	        	        
6.48	4640	178.2	2050	2160	6.88	0.895	0.8	        	        
7.29	5000	169.2	2030	2030	7.69	0.895	0.8	        	        
8.17	5360	161.7	1950	1930	8.59	0.89	0.8	        	        
8.99	5600	154.1	1880	1860	9.49	0.89	0.805	        	        
10	5920	147.4	1770	1790	10.38	0.89	0.805	        	        
10.78	6160	142.1	1730	1750	11.18	0.89	0.81	        	        
11.58	6360	137.6	1680	1720	11.98	0.895	0.805

Group A:	'118				Group B:	'032		
	Engine Speed	Air Temp In	Boost Dut Cyc	Actual Boost		Idle O2 Adapt	Run O2 Adapt	 
TIME	700-6800 RPM	<=110 C	0-100% 	<=1800 mbar	TIME	-10.1	-10.1	 
STAMP	 /min	°C	%	 mbar	STAMP	%	%	
0.8	2040	34	0	990	0.4	0.6	0.8	        
1.6	2200	34	100	1140	1.2	0.6	0.8	        
2.38	2520	34	100	1510	1.98	0.6	0.8	        
3.18	2920	34	100	1910	2.78	0.6	0.8	        
3.98	3400	34	94.9	2380	3.58	0.6	0.8	        
4.78	3880	36	89.8	2380	4.38	0.6	0.8	        
5.58	4320	37	88.6	2270	5.18	0.6	0.8	        
6.62	4720	39	89.8	2130	5.98	0.6	0.8	        
7.69	5200	42	96.5	1960	7.18	0.6	0.8	        
8.49	5480	45	96.5	1890	8.09	0.6	0.8	        
9.29	5720	48	91	1820	8.89	0.6	0.8	        
10.09	6000	51	88.6	1770	9.69	0.6	0.8	        
10.89	6240	54	82.4	1740	10.49	0.6	0.8	        
11.69	6400	56	78	1690	11.29	0.6	0.8	        
12.59	6600	58	72.5	1640	12.09	0.6	0.8	        
13.5	6760	60	72.5	1620	12.99	0.6	0.8	        
14.3	5920	57	0	1180	13.9	0.6	0.8	        
15.1	5160	54	0	1190	14.7	0.6	0.8

 

[Big_daddy]

Quick blast 2nd -4th gear

On the way back home, 2nd to 4th gear

	Group A:	'003				Group B:	'020				Group C:	'118			
		Idle speed	Air mass in	Throt Angle	Ignit Angle		Idle Stabilization	Idle Stabilization	Idle Stabilization	Idle Stabilization		Engine Speed	Air Temp In	Boost Dut Cyc	Actual Boost
	TIME	700-820 rpm	2.0-4.5 g/s	0.2-4.0%	0-12 BTDC	TIME	700-6800 RPM	15-150%	990-1800 mbar	<=1800 mbar	TIME	700-6800 RPM	<=110 C	0-100% 	<=1800 mbar
MARKER	STAMP	 /min	 g/s	%	°	STAMP	 CF	 CF	 CF	 CF	STAMP	 /min	°C	%	 mbar
2nd gear	0.4	1920	7.22	6.3	18.8	0.8	0	0	0	0	0	1920	48	0	1010
|	1.7	1960	15.19	10.6	15.8	2.1	0	0	0	0	1.2	1920	48	0	1000
|	3.01	1960	7.22	6.3	13.5	3.41	0	0	0	0	2.5	1960	48	0	1020
|	4.21	2000	14.53	9.8	23.3	4.59	0	0	0	0	3.81	1960	48	0	1000
|	5.5	2360	18.56	11.8	12.8	6	0	0	0	0	5.04	2200	48	0	1020
|	6.9	2520	7.81	6.7	26.3	7.3	0	0	0	0	6.4	2480	47	0	1030
|	8.1	2480	18.89	12.5	19.5	8.5	0	0	0	0	7.7	2520	47	0	1000
|	9.3	2560	27.22	16.9	14.3	9.7	0	0	3	3	8.9	2520	48	0	1030
|	10.5	2640	25.31	15.7	25.5	10.99	0	0	3	3	10.1	2600	48	0	1090
|	11.9	3040	48.78	23.9	8.3	12.3	2.3	1.5	4.5	5.3	11.39	2840	47	0	1090
|	13.1	4000	135.11	100	7.5	13.5	6	7.5	6.8	8.3	12.7	3640	48	100	1610
|	14.58	5080	151.56	39.2	3	15.12	6	7.5	6.8	8.3	13.9	4800	50	81.2	2380
|	16	6200	158.81	42.7	15	16.4	5.3	6	4.5	6	15.6	5920	53	92.2	1950
|	17.31	6920	164	59.6	19.5	17.71	4.5	5.3	4.5	4.5	16.91	6720	56	80	1790
3rd gear	18.61	5200	157.83	100	10.5	19.01	3	3	3	0	18.11	6120	56	100	1060
|	19.81	5680	162.17	100	11.3	20.35	3	2.3	2.3	0	19.41	5520	60	89.8	1900
|	21.2	6120	159.11	100	16.5	21.6	0.8	0.8	0.8	0	20.8	6000	63	78.4	1780
|	22.4	6400	159.64	100	18.8	22.8	0	3	0	0	22	6320	66	78.4	1680
|	23.69	6000	93.31	85.1	30.8	24.09	0	0	0	0	23.2	6560	66	77.6	1660
4th gear	24.89	5280	160.39	100	14.3	25.29	0	0	0	0	24.49	5200	66	100	1990
|	26.21	5520	160.78	100	12	26.61	0	0	0	0	25.69	5440	67	96.1	1940

 

[m0rk]

way too much timing given how cold the air is, inlet temps aren't even that bad.

that's going to drive like a derv in the summer

 

[Big_daddy]

way too much timing given how cold the air is, inlet temps aren't even that bad.

that's going to drive like a derv in the summer

yeh my previous log showed inlet temp round 79 when the out side temp was around 20 dgress but my timming was that high then

Few months ago

" http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showthread.php?t=137253&highlight=boost+meeting+demand "

whats the highest the timming can it ? whats the worst could happen if they dont go down (not sure how timming works )

 

[__B3NNY__]

What map are you running? If you have revo or CC you should be able to turn your timming down with there software. Idealy you want to see 3s and 4s.

 

[Big_daddy]

Its a Performance torque remap

 

[-pseudonymous-]

You don't really want to be seeing CF's above 3. You really need a FMIC although with the ambient temps as they are now you wouldn't feel a great benefit. Is it a P-torque map? Maybe you should get Will to have a look at it.

 

[-pseudonymous-]

I was gona suggest knocking the time back a bit with lemmiwinks but not sure if you can with your mapping. If you dont really know what your doing then dont mess though!!!

 

[Big_daddy]

You don't really want to be seeing CF's above 3. You really need a FMIC although with the ambient temps as they are now you wouldn't feel a great benefit. Is it a P-torque map? Maybe you should get Will to have a look at it.

Yes the it s P torque remap, but i dont under stand, when it was hotter outside the CF timming would go to about 4, now its colder, asume they be alot lower. The inlet temp is way lower and cools down very very quickly as before.

 

[-pseudonymous-]

Seems your timing is cranked up too much either way. What fuel are you using? Have you spoken to Will at P-torque for his views on it?

 

[Big_daddy]

Seems your timing is cranked up too much either way. What fuel are you using? Have you spoken to Will at P-torque for his views on it?

Vpower some times 95 but 90% its vpower, no havent, just done the logs inthe afternon and they closed on saturdays after 1pm, i think

 

[Big_daddy]

My head hurts now!!!

 

[Big_daddy]

updates - abit improvement

Redone my logs as ive been using alot more v-power to fill upfrom.

Group A:	'003				Group B:	'020			
	Idle speed	Air mass in	Throt Angle	Ignit Angle		Idle Stabilization	Idle Stabilization	Idle Stabilization	Idle Stabilization
TIME	700-820 rpm	2.0-4.5 g/s	0.2-4.0%	0-12 BTDC	TIME				
STAMP	 /min	 g/s	%	°	STAMP	 CF	 CF	 CF	 CF
0.65	1960	20.86	14.9	24.8	0	0	0	0	0
1.59	2280	46.47	100	12.8	1.19	3	3	0	0.8
2.5	2640	65.22	100	12.8	1.99	3	3	0	0.8
3.3	3040	95.42	100	6	2.9	2.3	3	0	0.8
4.1	3560	132.08	100	9	3.7	2.3	2.3	3	0
4.9	4040	145.11	100	9.8	4.5	2.3	5.3	3	6
5.68	4480	154.83	100	6	5.3	2.3	5.3	3	6
6.59	4920	158.75	100	9	6.08	1.5	5.3	3	5.3
7.49	5320	163.89	100	8.3	7.09	1.5	4.5	2.3	5.3
8.31	5600	164.86	100	12.8	7.89	1.5	4.5	2.3	4.5
9.11	5880	165.17	100	12	8.71	1.5	3.8	2.3	4.5
9.91	6120	164.19	100	15	9.51	0.8	3.8	2.3	4.5
10.69	6360	169.17	100	18	10.3	0.8	3.8	1.5	3.8
11.51	6520	169.25	100	18.8	11.09	0.8	3	1.5	3.8

Group A:	'115				Group B:	'031	
	Engine Speed	Engine Load	Spec. Boost	Actual Boost		Voltage	Voltage
TIME	700-6800 RPM	15-150%	990-1800 mbar	<=1800 mbar	TIME		
STAMP	 /min	%	 mbar	 mbar	STAMP	 V	 V
0.75	2480	63.2	990	1100	0.35	0.065	0.635
1.55	2720	111.3	2280	1480	1.15	0.695	0.7
2.35	3120	153.4	2260	1960	1.95	0.805	0.745
3.55	3880	191.7	2150	2390	3.03	0.86	0.79
4.35	4360	182	2120	2280	3.95	0.865	0.77
5.36	4880	171.4	2080	2080	4.86	0.885	0.78
6.16	5200	163.2	2000	1960	5.75	0.895	0.78
6.95	5520	155.6	1920	1880	6.55	0.895	0.775
7.75	5800	150.4	1840	1820	7.35	0.895	0.775
8.59	6080	142.9	1760	1770	8.15	0.89	0.785
9.56	6360	137.6	1700	1740	9.07	0.895	0.79
10.36	6560	135.3	1660	1730	9.96	0.895	0.785
11.16	6760	132.3	1670	1720	10.76	0.89	0.785
67.01	720	15.8	990	1000	67.41	0.72	0.72
67.81	720	16.5	990	1000	68.21	0.68	0.675

Group A:	'118				Group B:	'032	
	Engine Speed	Air Temp In	Boost Dut Cyc	Actual Boost		Idle O2 Adapt	Run O2 Adapt
TIME	700-6800 RPM	<=110 C	0-100% 	<=1800 mbar	TIME	-10.1	-10.1
STAMP	 /min	°C	%	 mbar	STAMP	%	%
0	1920	42	0	1080	0.37	0.6	0.8
0.77	2120	40	100	1080	1.17	0.6	0.8
1.57	2360	39	100	1410	1.96	0.6	0.8
2.37	2720	39	100	1720	3.03	0.6	0.8
3.46	3320	39	90.6	2220	3.86	0.6	0.8
4.26	3800	39	89.4	2390	4.66	0.6	0.8
5.06	4280	42	87.8	2300	5.46	0.6	0.8
5.86	4680	44	90.2	2150	6.26	0.6	0.8
6.68	5080	46	94.9	2020	7.07	0.6	0.8
7.48	5400	48	98.8	1920	7.97	0.6	0.8
8.4	5760	51	94.5	1840	8.87	0.6	0.8
9.27	6000	54	91.4	1790	9.67	0.6	0.8
10.07	6280	57	86.7	1760	10.47	0.6	0.8
10.87	6480	59	85.5	1740	11.27	0.6	0.8
11.67	6680	61	83.9	1720	12.07	0.6	0.8