New clutch...need advice!

[Mike_444]

Hi everyone, in the last few days I've noticed that the clutch has started to slip on my Leon Cupra Tdi.

Just wondered if anyone could recomend a good replacement clutch, and how much/ where best to get it from. Are standard Seat clutches worth considering? as I'm not intending on getting the car re-mapped.

Please help....need to get this sorted asap!

Thanks guys

 

[Cupra Kev]

If it's not mapped and you're not thinking about getting it mapped then the standard SEAT clutch should be fine - the stock clutch is good for upto about 300lb/ft of torque, so should handle a Stage 1 map (as long as the mapper ensures it doesn't exceed 300lb/ft torque)

If you have the clutch done, get them to check the flywheel as well and while it's off it may be worth having the output shaft seal checked/replaced - mine went and allowed gearbox oil onto the clutch which caused it to start slipping!

 

[Rocky Rocastle]

is that right, standard clutch is only good for 300lb/ft?

Whats the next one up from stock without getting too expensive should a problem ever occur?

 

[Cupra Kev]

TDi's I've always been told will handle upto 300lb/ft before you get any problems - next stage would probably be Sachs organic clutch with SMF to replace the stock clutch/DMF

 

[Rocky Rocastle]

I see, I just noticed you 2 are both running TDi's.

Can anyone shed any light on what the rating is for the clutch in the Cupra R, i can see i'm going to have to remember to stop accelerating hard below 2000rpm

 

[Cupra Kev]

Rocky - running a petrol Cupra (180 mapped to 215ish) but for some reason don't know the peak torque figures that the Cupra/Cupra R clutches will handle

 

[Rocky Rocastle]

mines now 311lb so i hope it will last a while

 

[S3 AKR]

The uprated Sachs + DMF is also good for 300lbft + (have a look on Jabbasport web site for info, but with the DMF you won't see much change from £1k fitted though!)

 

[Rocky Rocastle]

what!!!!!!!!! is the that an OEM one too as i know these are commonly used in conjunction with the uprated clutch with no juddering if it's new

How much labour are you putting into that figure too ?

 

[S3 AKR]

Sachs Uprated Clutch (with bearing) = £560
OEM DMF = £250
Labour = £120 ish (a mate did mine for a drink)

You might shave some off here and there with some shopping around but you're looking £900 min I reckon.

 

[Mike_444]

thanks for the replys ppl. So how much should i be looking to pay for a standard clutch?

 

[Rocky Rocastle]

standard, not 100% percent without doing some looking around but i would say at least of the price of the sachs one shown above, more than likely a bit less again (exc DMF that is obviously)

 

[Mike_444]

£500 for a standard clutch!!!!! that can't be right can it? (really hope not)

 

[Rocky Rocastle]

£500 for a standard clutch!!!!! that can't be right can it? (really hope not)

no, no........i mean half the price of just the sach's kit for the clutch, i'd say around £200ish but yes if the add the DMF it will increase to about £450, i would check if this would actually need doing though

 

[S3 AKR]

I looked it up on eurocarparts.com for you using my car as the benchmark.....

standard sachs clutch module = £328.84 (DMF + Clutch kit for ARL engine)

I would imagine you have to add VAT.

link - click here

 

[Mike_444]

oh...thank god! I can un-clench now Forgive me if I'm being abit dim, but what is this DMF thing you keep refering to?

 

[S3 AKR]

Dual Mass Flywheel. Look it up for a video on youtube as to how it works, but basically the fly wheel is one wheel inside another, linked together kinda by a spring to absorb vibration and make the car smoother and quieter. Thing is, they wear and the "spring" goes a bit soggy and it starts rattling and can cause vibrations or fail completely. Whilst the gearbox is off for the clutch, change the DMF. If the clutch is worn, chances are the DMF is too (hence they sell a kit including a DMF and clutch I s'pose).

You can convert to a single mass fly (SMF) but it vibrates more in normal operation. Do a search though as its been discussed to death on here. My pref was a new DMF with my uprated sachs clutch.