Pirelli P-zeros?

[RYANBRZ]

I had a 290 black edition for 2 years before the s4, mines a saloon though, its a better car in every aspect, but it's also a more expensive car, 50k list when I spec'd it, the interior is a lovely place to be, I spec'd the magma red leather, I've got a tuning box on mine and it absolutely flys! It's worse on fuel than the cupra but that's to be expected
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It looks gorgeous mate, I do like the red leather.
them 0-60 times are insane with the tuning box.

I imagine the performance from stock is similar to the Cupra as they have similar power to weight ratios, did you find that?

I did see some pretty good deals on Autotrader 2017 models about 8k more than what I paid for my Cupra, so tempting!

the only drawback I imagine is getting used to the lower fuel economy and also the fact it's a hotter car for thieves.

 

[motty225]

It looks gorgeous mate, I do like the red leather.
them 0-60 times are insane with the tuning box.

I imagine the performance from stock is similar to the Cupra as they have similar power to weight ratios, did you find that?

I did see some pretty good deals on Autotrader 2017 models about 8k more than what I paid for my Cupra, so tempting!

the only drawback I imagine is getting used to the lower fuel economy and also the fact it's a hotter car for thieves.

Yeah standard performance there isn't much in it, but the s4 still edges it slightly, plus the power is usable all the time, mpg I average around 22 day to day, but I went a steady drive to thorpe Park in it and got 39mpg over the journey, I lease mine on 3k down £280 a month, that's with daytona paint, virtual cockpit and extended ambiant lighting spec'd as an option

 

[queen]

If you are after nothing but dry performance and handling, you should take a look at Yokohama Advan Neova AD08R. Had them on 2 previous cars (290bhp and 380bhp) and I'll be fitting them to my mk3 Cupra in a few months. That is if you can put up with the stiff sidewall, road noise and increased wear rate.
However a Michelin PS4S or equivalent is plenty of street performance with better manners and usability.

 

[Tonezz]

Just got a 280 with 2 brand new P Zero's up front. You have to be careful setting off, they seem to spin up very easily.

Obviously no experience of them in summer time with bone dry roads though.

 

[BigJase88]

Just got a 280 with 2 brand new P Zero's up front. You have to be careful setting off, they seem to spin up very easily.

Obviously no experience of them in summer time with bone dry roads though.

Wrong time of year for a summer tyre, they just don’t work well in cold damp temperatures as the rubber compound is designed for higher temps, we are thoroughly into all season / winter tyre time

 

[Tonezz]

Wrong time of year for a summer tyre, they just don’t work well in cold damp temperatures as the rubber compound is designed for higher temps, we are thoroughly into all season / winter tyre time

Its not bad enough to make it worth paying about £800 to switch tyres over for the wet, all seasons for this are about £150 each minimum!

 

[BigJase88]

Its not bad enough to make it worth paying about £800 to switch tyres over for the wet, all seasons for this are about £150 each minimum!

im the same i run summer tyres all year round too, i have goodyear eagle f1’s on my piddly 1.5 tsi and even i struggle in these wintery conditions to put all 130 raging ponies onto the road

 

[RUM4MO]

Its not bad enough to make it worth paying about £800 to switch tyres over for the wet, all seasons for this are about £150 each minimum!

Those who want to or feel the need to DO those who don't DON'T, I'm not going to pump out "wise words" about using winter or all season tyres, but if you do end up seeing nasty cold winter weather frequently in winter, and you have the space to store a set of unused wheels with tyres, then the money hit/shock of using summer and then winter wheels+tyres gets minimised as your summer tyres and maybe smarter looking wheels end up hiding in the dark over winter and similarly your winter wheels and tyres end up hiding in the dark over summer, so okay you have now got two sets but they will last longer in months and years.

My main reason for moving to using two sets of wheels and tyres was prompted by slightly changing weather patterns leading to longer periods of icing locally and mainly by premium tyre makers making their summer tyres really only safe to use in summer, and from my experience, Michelin is top of the pile in making too many of their summer tyre models only safe in summer weather - even my local Costco tyre fitter was wise to that and offered me that advice, though luckily only after I had started using Michelin Alpins and Alpin Pilots in winter - well that was the advice concerning Exaltos - but, I am a Michelin fan so keep out of trouble using two sets of wheels and tyres.

I can't comment on my Pirelli P-Zero Rossos though in winter as they have never seen any winter weather.

 

[Tonezz]

Those who want to or feel the need to DO those who don't DON'T, I'm not going to pump out "wise words" about using winter or all season tyres, but if you do end up seeing nasty cold winter weather frequently in winter, and you have the space to store a set of unused wheels with tyres, then the money hit/shock of using summer and then winter wheels+tyres gets minimised as your summer tyres and maybe smarter looking wheels end up hiding in the dark over winter and similarly your winter wheels and tyres end up hiding in the dark over summer, so okay you have now got two sets but they will last longer in months and years.

My main reason for moving to using two sets of wheels and tyres was prompted by slightly changing weather patterns leading to longer periods of icing locally and mainly by premium tyre makers making their summer tyres really only safe to use in summer, and from my experience, Michelin is top of the pile in making too many of their summer tyre models only safe in summer weather - even my local Costco tyre fitter was wise to that and offered me that advice, though luckily only after I had started using Michelin Alpins and Alpin Pilots in winter - well that was the advice concerning Exaltos - but, I am a Michelin fan so keep out of trouble using two sets of wheels and tyres.

I can't comment on my Pirelli P-Zero Rossos though in winter as they have never seen any winter weather.

Yes like you say if you have the storage space and the available funds to have 2 full sets of tyres and pay to swap them over and rebalance thats fine and is the better idea, alot of people just won't have that money sat around to do that.

Also it depends on how extreme the weather gets, near me its just wet and not arctic in the winter most of the time so its not really necessary.

 

[EZ Cupra]

Had P zero Rosso on my LCR 225. Been mine go to tyre ever since. Didn’t find wear too bad (swapped over at 6k) and got 10k out if set. Driven hard. Different story on a 350z though. Worn rears after £5k. Great grip though

 

[KXL]

CrossClimates / Vector4Seasons / Weathercontrol then?