Project Polo turbo update.... + a few questions!

[str8ballin]

Hello all,
Finally nearly finished my polo 1.8t conversion, I just need the Exhaust and remap.

Here's my spec so far:

AYP engine, gearbox & ECU (156hp)
K04-23 Turbo & Manifold
S3 injectors + MAF (225hp)
S3 Fuel pump (225hp)
Forge FMIC
Forge TIP & Split R D/V
4BAR FPR

I am getting the Turbo back custom exhaust done in birmingham so getting towed there, I was hoping I can drive back home once the exhaust is on (55miles) and then another 50 miles the next day to MRC for the remap...
Is this ok? From what I've read, the engine will hit limp mode as its going to be de-catted and also running more boost from the k04, but would it be ok to drive economically to my destinations?
A mate tells me that as I am running bigger injectors & the 4bar fpr it will run too rich??

Any advise please??

Here are a few photos....

Thanks for looking, and many many thanks to everyone who has helped me along the way with your advise... badger5, craig, hooch, mk1golf_jack and everyone else.... this is the BEST forum on the net! !
If it wasnt for you SEAT guys I would never get this conversion done!

 

[Brummy]

nice work, but surely this should be in a different part of the forum?

 

[m0rk]

if you're dragging it to the exhaust place, you may as well drag it home again

it will save you a lot of heart ache in case the car runs lean & melts stuff.....

then drag it to MRC as well

 

[str8ballin]

nice work, but surely this should be in a different part of the forum?

True, but im using the same engine as the people here and they have the best advise!

Cheers Mork your right..... the only reason I wanted to drive it is because I have so many second hand parts & its custom, I just want to makesure everything runs ok before I put even more strain on the engine with the re-map.... but I think I am going to tow it everywhere, I've spent alot of money so far, it makes sense to pay another £100 to get me home & to MRC.

 

[PhilW]

Have you got an a/f gauge? I'd only drive it if i had one eye on a gauge and dint boot it.

 

[str8ballin]

Have you got an a/f gauge? I'd only drive it if i had one eye on a gauge and dint boot it.

Hi mate no I only have a boost gauge and EGT gauge....
I have a couple of wideband sensors in the garage from an S3 D/P and my polo exhaust, but I cant find a decent a/f gauge, apart from £200 ones!

I have seen many of the cheap ones but I heard they are no good?

I really really want to drive the car before I take it MRC, I dont want to get there then they say no as the car is not 100% functional, then I have to go back to leciester and sort out the problems first..

 

[PhilW]

Tricky one really. With something like your doing it might be worth investing in an a/f gauge anyway. But to be honest you'll soon know when you start the car and idle it if somethings up.

 

[ibizacupra]

wideband gauge is a wise investment.
ibiza ecu is dumb switching lambda.

 

[Glassy80]

Feck me, that thing is gonna shift!

 

[str8ballin]

wideband gauge is a wise investment.
ibiza ecu is dumb switching lambda.

Hi Bill, what do u mean by the ECU is dumb switching lambda?
Sorry if thats a dumb question!

I had to get 2 new o2 sensors as the harness needed the 4wire sensors & I had a few 6wire ones.

You and PhilW recommend getting a wideband meter, so im going to buy one...

Any advise on which company is better to go with?

Thanks every1 for your advise and comments!

 

[PhilW]

Basically the ibiza uses narrowband lambdas so doesnt directly control the fuelling with them, its uses MAF g/s and injector time.

Innovate Xd-16 standalone i was gonna go for but it looks like i'm gettin a zeitronix display with EGT and a/f now.

 

[mk1golf_jack]

The one i will probably buy, which cupra_matt has gone for is an innovate motorsport one, something like this?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Innovate-Moto...ryZ32094QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

 

[str8ballin]

Tricky one really. With something like your doing it might be worth investing in an a/f gauge anyway. But to be honest you'll soon know when you start the car and idle it if somethings up.

I've found a Innovative LC1 wideband controller and sensor for £140 on ebay.
I think it needs connecting to the laptop, doesnt have a gauge...
Would that be ok?

I would makesure I ahve a passanger holding the laptop making sure everything is ok?

Once I am mapped up I wont really need the o2 meter and I dont really want to add another gauge!

 

[mk1golf_jack]

I think it would be wise to have it constantly set up with a gauge. If the fuel pump goes and you cant keep a constant eye on AFR then it will blow up. Im going to have the gauge in mate

 

[Ninja]

wow top work there.. Thats gonna be awesome when its finished..

Really love all the euro polos but they never had an engine worthy! Would love to see more info on this when finished!!

 

[nick-barnes07]

hows the polo coming on

 

[h17och]

only just seen this thread! its good to see sum pics of it after all of our pm's back and forth!!

mrc told me to go back to them once i had EGT and wideband!

it will be a better map if they can monitor them both! hence my map being total shite!!

Good luck

 

[nick-barnes07]

i had my s3 mapped at mrc , doug is a top bloke and certainly knows his **** ,

 

[h17och]

your ibiza was also mapped by them and look what bill said about the map....

agreed top blokes and maybe good mappers on tt/s4 etc but i was impressed with there custom ibiza mapping skills....

 

[ibizacupra]

your ibiza was also mapped by them and look what bill said about the map....

agreed top blokes and maybe good mappers on tt/s4 etc but i was impressed with there custom ibiza mapping skills....

Exactly...... when nick bought your K04 kit, why could it not keep up with a K03s ibiza running on K03 mapping @ the time???

Certainly not 280bhp level claimed by a long long margin.
thats what I saw and logged... it just did'nt go like you would expect a K04 car to go. His previous LCR would have blown the ibiza away, which from the same turbo, much heavier car, should never be possible.. (and the LCR was Custom coded)

I was not knocking MRC, but there was something wrong with that ibiza running your k04 bits, and MRC tuned ecu, if all that was told to me was true. some fault somewhere on it, but sold on soon after he bought it.

ibiza ecu's are a law unto themselves, as JBS James has found on my own motor.. awkward SOB of an ecu.