Rear Beam Bushes

[cuprabaz]

Having looked through a load of threads there isn't much info on these.

I know Badger5/VT make them. Powerflex list them for the mk3 ibiza PFR85-206 which everyone say do not fit.
The polo mk4 bushes are supposed to fit. The mk4 is not listed as such on Powerflex's website it just lists the Polo(1995-2002) which i would say the mk4 falls into and the part number is PFR85-615.

Can anyone confirm that these are the correct ones for the job?

 

[Willie]

Baz

These are a serious no no for the Leon back end as there is passive steering due to the softer bushes allowing you better handling.
I would just fit OEM bushes, I plan to fit new ones to my mota soon too

 

[wilz]

I need to know too,

horrible knock comes from the back when i boot it up.

Anyone help us?

 

[SeatR]

may it be Golf mk2 ?

 

[ibizacupra]

ibiza cupra is ibiza cupra mk3 specific..
VT ones I did are the only ones as far as I know.

rear bushes are horribly soft.. and not good for steering at all!

 

[cuprabaz]

So are the polo items definitely out of the question? I'm sure RobT said they fit?

 

[Prebs]

Bill, are these a easy fit or do you need a hydralic press to get them out as Im thinking about getting a pair from you

Prebs

 

[Robbie C]

As above, interested in a set of these but wondering how much effort they are to change. I'm guessing you'd need your alignment checked again afterwards too?

 

[ian_cupra]

snap, you answered my pm here as well robbie

 

[Robbie C]

Anyone feel a group buy coming on?

 

[ian_cupra]

 

[Prebs]

As above, interested in a set of these but wondering how much effort they are to change. I'm guessing you'd need your alignment checked again afterwards too?

Dont think "alligment check" is needed cos of the minimal adjusments options on the rear. I might be wrong thou...

Prebs

 

[Mat]

if it improves things, i'll join that

 

[ian_cupra]

best get speaking to bill i guess

 

[ibizacupra]

I removed my rear beam to fit them.. removing the old ones was the pain... cutting the outer steel collar off.
I think RobT got a polo motorsport bush but that was the last in stock. He may be able to remember the model polo it came off.

The VT bushes are aluminium and were a push/tap fit into the beam. The problem with the fitment is the beam is low quality fabrication and the roundness of the location is not great, but the bush is perfectly round, so prepare for some fettling. I added additional fixings to my bushes once installed, by drilling and tapping thru the beam into the bush and tapping M8 bolt to just secure it in place so no lateral movement could occur.

Made big difference to the rear stability thru folly round castle combe, where before the rear would jiggle/wiggle thru that high speed corner and amost ceased completely when the VT bushes were in.

You will be shocked when you see how soft those bushes are. They must flex something rotten in use altering geometry on toe big time.

 

[Prebs]

Beeing aluminium is there any increase of noticeable vibrations from the road under normal road use???

Prebs

 

[ian_cupra]

bill, is there any chance of a GB on these then, depending on numbers

do you have pics of what you did with regards to securing the bush in better? just so i can get my head around it

 

[Willie]

I removed my rear beam to fit them.. removing the old ones was the pain... cutting the outer steel collar off.
I think RobT got a polo motorsport bush but that was the last in stock. He may be able to remember the model polo it came off.

The VT bushes are aluminium and were a push/tap fit into the beam. The problem with the fitment is the beam is low quality fabrication and the roundness of the location is not great, but the bush is perfectly round, so prepare for some fettling. I added additional fixings to my bushes once installed, by drilling and tapping thru the beam into the bush and tapping M8 bolt to just secure it in place so no lateral movement could occur.

Made big difference to the rear stability thru folly round castle combe, where before the rear would jiggle/wiggle thru that high speed corner and amost ceased completely when the VT bushes were in.

You will be shocked when you see how soft those bushes are. They must flex something rotten in use altering geometry on toe big time.

Is that not the whole point to them that they give a bit of passive rear end steering?
I know it is the case with the LCR rear end

 

[ian_cupra]

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Is that not the whole point to them that they give a bit of passive rear end steering?
I know it is the case with the LCR rear end

when throwing it about i would rather have it solid, due to the fact that if your quickly changing direction the rear beam will be lagging behind if allowed to move and give 'passive steering' the wrong way.

 

[ibizacupra]

Beeing aluminium is there any increase of noticeable vibrations from the road under normal road use???

Prebs

lol, they are not solid aluminium. they are aluminium outer, rubber bonded to an aluminium inner. not solid aluminium.