rear end

[clubby]

hi i was going round a round about in the wet tonite around the 30 mph mark and the back end just went sideways on me.The tyres are new and scared the crap out of me,has anyone had the same problem the bushes are ok to.Is there an antiroll bar in the back or anything,oh its a 2000 ibiza cupra with normal suspenion and not lowered

 

[allyboy]

hey mate how new are the tyres??? are they over inflated??

 

[clubby]

A week old and no air is fine in them,i changed them as i thought it was a bit skidy at the back the week before,ive only just had it 2 weeks

 

[allyboy]

cant say i've had that problem the back axle bushies usually wear out could maybe get them checked?? what tyres have you got on??

 

[clubby]

Hero HZ1 Milanza 195 x45x16 £45 each

 

[allyboy]

cheap tyres dont expel water through the sips(gaps in the tyres) as well as premium tyres meaning you get a build up of water in the tread which causes less grip there is a possibilty thats the problem

 

[clubby]

i never had a problem running cheapish tyres on my ibiza cupra r i had 7 years ago

 

[CupraElliott]

Probablys lift off oversteer. Back end can kick out if you lift off going into a corner.

 

[fourtwofive]

sounds like good fun to me i would be happy if my back end kicked out. the worst is a lowered stiff car with cheap tired ie my old 1.4 ibiza. hell in the wet have you got uprated shocked and springs?

 

[Ibiza125]

I always have a problem with understeer not oversteer! Not to sound like a **** or anything but I think it may be driver error.

 

[fourtwofive]

i have the same problem with oversteer not under i think i would prefer if i got understeer problems if u can call it one.

 

[Ibiza125]

Nah man understeer is crap! MUCH MUCH rather have oversteer. Infact rather have none but oversteer is fun and to a certain extent more controllable.

 

[fourtwofive]

yer i guess i dont like the feeling of loosing the front end. controllable yes. also after stripping the back seats out really has improved the oversteer much better in my opinion feels like a much more balanced car. people might think different.

 

[fourtwofive]

but back on the subject of loosing it going round a roundabout at 30. maybe oil on the road. does it always kick out in the wet or just this one time? clubby

 

[emlyn11]

Had way more oversteer before I got my rear spacers, it's a much more understeer biased car now

Really have to lift off a lot to get the back end out now.

But back to the first post.... Make sure youre rear tyres are not under-inflated, if you're rears are much
lower than the fronts you will get oversteer and the opposite for understeer. Could get some spacers too
if you want to get rid of it.

Emlyn

 

[clubby]

Thankyou...yes it feels as if there is something loose,do they have antiroll bars?

 

[emlyn11]

Rear axle bushes need checking then first. It's a solid rear beam and from standard there is no
ARB as such but the beam kind of acts as one.

Emlyn

 

[AlexGSi2000]

There could have been something on the road? Slight oil patch maybe?

 

[Dan1.6]

did you catch any white paint on the road? that stuff is deadly in the wet when i had my 1.4 it sent me sideways

 

[clubby]

ok i think i have found possible cause,i can get three fingers between back wheel and start of arch on drivers side and whole had on other side,must be shock or spring gone