Phil, it's a very old log but....
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When did you get stage 2 mart? Before or after me? I've had mine since about year last september ish, maybe earlier coz that looks way different to mine.
I was on Stage 1.5 for a while...then I had it re-flashed by JKM with Stage 2 AA code (rather than AB which was coded for the R). I'm not sure how old that log is though...
I had stage 2 from the start....I never ran the car on Stage 1.
I had stage 2 from the start....I never ran the car on Stage 1.
Worth a go phil, Im yet to get my car back and log with the new code installed ive also added the 'race' N75 valve aswell. but as soon as shes back ill get it logged if you havent done before hand.
When i went to the JKM RR day a couple of momths ago alot of the LCR lads on stg2 were only pulling 240bhp or there abouts there was a debate going on weather it could be the map or not and apprently some of the skoda boys had problems? If there could be a incline that there could be somthing wrong with the map, im more than happy to book a day off (as soon as i get the car back) and take a trip upto Revo HQ with my recent logs for them to have a look as there only about 40mins from me.
Its a bad situation when both of us have ran a stg1 with a k03 and pulled mid 220`s then install a bigger turbo with a stg2 map and get lower results.
When i went to the JKM RR day a couple of momths ago alot of the LCR lads on stg2 were only pulling 240bhp or there abouts there was a debate going on weather it could be the map or not and apprently some of the skoda boys had problems? If there could be a incline that there could be somthing wrong with the map, im more than happy to book a day off (as soon as i get the car back) and take a trip upto Revo HQ with my recent logs for them to have a look as there only about 40mins from me.
Its a bad situation when both of us have ran a stg1 with a k03 and pulled mid 220`s then install a bigger turbo with a stg2 map and get lower results.
My RR result doesnt concern me to be honest as something was up with it on the rollers, but i'm just thining it might be the map as the requested is so much lower than the actual when it had the problem it might just be the ecu regulating the boost.
It would be great if you could log it when you get the car back and post up to see if its any different from what we're seeing.
FYI
My 227bhp was on stage 2 running HB8 T8 iirc on a k03 btw.
I had 210bhp on stage 1 and k03.
It would be great if you could log it when you get the car back and post up to see if its any different from what we're seeing.
FYI
My 227bhp was on stage 2 running HB8 T8 iirc on a k03 btw.
I had 210bhp on stage 1 and k03.
I certinatly will, with abit of luck should be by the end of the week, but ive been saying that for the past 3 weeks
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Sorry i wasnt aware that your 227 was on a stg2, My 224 was on a k03 stg1 but i think the rollers were a tad optimistic
.Sorry i wasnt aware that your 227 was on a stg2, My 224 was on a k03 stg1 but i think the rollers were a tad optimistic
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Lol @ daz, old school. I;ll give grant a buzz tomorrow to see what the score is.
Be nice if revo kev could chip in on this as well.
Be nice if revo kev could chip in on this as well.
yea soz was going to get some up but havin problems miss firing and banging on full load heres a really quick one in second if it helps you at all?
Code:
'115 Group C:
RPM Load Absolute Pres. Absolute Pres.
TIME
/min % mbar mbar STAMP
1240 59.4 1000 1030
1520 89.5 1540 1130
2000 115 2040 1370
2640 165.4 2190 1940
3080 189.5 2190 2420
3480 188.7 2170 2340
3920 185 2170 2260
4520 178.2 2140 2180
5000 173.7 2140 2050
5320 167.7 2100 2040
5600 158.6 2060 2000
5880 151.9 2000 1920Heres one of mine Phil set at B9T9. Requested looks pretty similar to all the boys on stage 2. Although i've had to crank my wastegate a fair bit to get the actual to peak around 22psi and follow the requested.
Ever since i had the stage 2 upgrade my car seemed to under-perform and always wondered if there was an newer update available.
Ever since i had the stage 2 upgrade my car seemed to under-perform and always wondered if there was an newer update available.
Code:
'115 Group C: Not Running
RPM Load Absolute Pres. Absolute Pres.
TIME
/min % mbar mbar STAMP
2240 94.7 2130 1170
2440 120.3 2190 1530
2680 142.9 2210 1860
2920 163.2 2220 2140
3200 187.2 2220 2420
3480 191.7 2200 2490
3800 188 2200 2470
4040 189.5 2210 2430
4320 187.2 2190 2400
4560 182.7 2150 2330
4800 179.7 2150 2240
5000 174.4 2130 2160
5200 169.9 2100 2110
5400 163.2 2080 2080
5600 157.9 2050 2070
5720 154.9 2030 2040
5840 153.4 2010 1990
6000 151.1 1990 1960
6120 148.1 1960 1950
6200 147.4 1940 1940
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Strange isnt it that stage 2 requests quite a bit lower than stage 1 which isnt supposed to have as many supporting mods.
I'll post up if there might be an update for me as i had mine done a while ago.
DPJ's log is asking for 2120 @ 6240, where ours is asking that at 5000!
I'll post up if there might be an update for me as i had mine done a while ago.
DPJ's log is asking for 2120 @ 6240, where ours is asking that at 5000!
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Yeah it is a bit strange. Maybe its just because its a smoother more progressive map. Although what turbo is DPJ's stage 2 mapped for? ko3s or ko4? Stage 2 on the Ibiza is written for the ko3 isn't so presumably they limit requested at higher as a safeguard. I haven't got any logs of stage 1 at b9t9 to compare unfortunately.
Keep us posted about the update though.
Keep us posted about the update though.
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I think you've missed the point a little, stage 1 ibiza map is showing the boost to be more agressive even on lower settings than stage 2
Stage 2 does request more boost further up the rev range as far as i can see, but not much and this might even disappear if stage 1 was logged on HB9.
DPJ's map is for a k03s stage 2 leon.
Stage 2 does request more boost further up the rev range as far as i can see, but not much and this might even disappear if stage 1 was logged on HB9.
DPJ's map is for a k03s stage 2 leon.
Sorry i meant ours will be requesting less than DPJ's as the software was written for different turbo's. But yeah to say our stage 2's are maxed out the requested is definitely a bit low in comparison to stage 1. Its a shame they don't do a code for the ko3's ibiza's now there's more around.
Maybe you should get onto Revo and let them use yours as a tester car Phil
Maybe you should get onto Revo and let them use yours as a tester car Phil
You'll probably find that it depends on which stg1 file you're comparing to, in the early days there was no stg2 code and 'Revo' code had a much wider range of adjustment then to account for differences between completely stock and what we'd call 'stage2' spec cars. However back then the levels of adjustment were way too much and you could really get into trouble with higher settings. All we did was spend every minute god gives on the phone to customers that had put settings too high and their cars weren't running right.
Then stg1 and stg2 were released, this gave different levels of adjustment within the two maps. Stg2 has to cater for a vast range of cars: from one with a full exhaust/intake/fpr to those with that plus hoses/FMIC/etc/etc/etc. The difference between the stock (dogsh*t) IC and a decent FMIC is so much that the settings you run would be vastly different. Boost isn't the be all end all, if you are running a different turbo than stock and want more than stg2 offers then put an MBC on. You can request what you want then and for a K03s the fuelling is more than enough. There's lots of adjustment there, you can't compare settings between stg1 and 2 codes due to differences in tuning, it's a struggle to compare cars due to adapation variances as well. I don't see any load being monitored, thus can't see if the ECU is having to pull back either!
Hope this helps.
Then stg1 and stg2 were released, this gave different levels of adjustment within the two maps. Stg2 has to cater for a vast range of cars: from one with a full exhaust/intake/fpr to those with that plus hoses/FMIC/etc/etc/etc. The difference between the stock (dogsh*t) IC and a decent FMIC is so much that the settings you run would be vastly different. Boost isn't the be all end all, if you are running a different turbo than stock and want more than stg2 offers then put an MBC on. You can request what you want then and for a K03s the fuelling is more than enough. There's lots of adjustment there, you can't compare settings between stg1 and 2 codes due to differences in tuning, it's a struggle to compare cars due to adapation variances as well. I don't see any load being monitored, thus can't see if the ECU is having to pull back either!
Hope this helps.
Kev, would you be prepared to post some instruction on monitoring load and interpreting the results? (In the Vag-Com section)
Kev, would you be prepared to post some instruction on monitoring load and interpreting the results? (In the Vag-Com section)
I would be interested in this too as I'm convinced myself and others do not load the car up properly when logging and adjusting SPS settings. Thus making for what can be interesting dyno results due to not enough or too much load by the dyno operator.
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