selecting gears!

[philsip]

About a year ago my gearbox was removed from my car, after being refitted its never really been able to go from 6th cruising speed to 3rd to get the revs up to over take someone!

it doesnt want to go into 3rd but if i put it into 4th then it'll go into 3rd straight away!

it goes from 6th to 3rd ok but could there be a possibility that the gear linkage might need adjusted?

 

[veezee]

I see you're an Audi technician, so I wont even begin to stab at what could technically be wrong, and just mention my box has never been able to shift from 5th to 2nd with revs above 2k. 1.2 Engine.

 

[philsip]

i man you dont know the gear ratios in the 130 ibiza, i may be a technician but im learning just like every other person in the world!

but back to topic!

has anyone had this problem with there 130 sport ?

 

[philsip]

and by the way ive said its never really went from 6th to 3rd directly

i mean as in its selects every gear perfectly, but it'll find getting from 6th to 3rd not that easy, going up the gears its brillant! 1st -6th is brillant smmoth selecting!

I may just leave it as it is though as it does it some times but mostly works ok

 

[Bondiblu]

TBH, not ever tried going from 6th into 3rd. I've got a different selection problem, mine seems hard going into 1st and 2nd especially when cold and 2nd gear is a bit whiney. Not sure if it's a worn clutch or as feared a definite gearbox fault.

 

[philsip]

intresting (bondiblu) mine was like that before my gear box was removed, it was removed to replace the gear selectors which was done by my master tech in the dealership! which im still very greatful for him to have done for me

 

[Bondiblu]

intresting (bondiblu) mine was like that before my gear box was removed, it was removed to replace the gear selectors which was done by my master tech in the dealership! which im still very greatful for him to have done for me

Did you have the clutch replaced at the same time as the selectors? I've heard it could be a worn clutch, just not sure how a worn clutch would make 2nd become whiney.

 

[veezee]

i may be a technician but im learning just like every other person in the world!

Understood, no offence intended, just your knowledge is likely greater than what I've taught myself.

Back to the topic anyway...

From my limited understanding, it is probably solely related to the gear ratios, with the speed 3rd would need to spin at to generate the same momentum as 6th, being outside of it's safe operational range. The notchiness between 1st and 2nd is an actual flaw - my car seems to have got over it though, when I bought the car it was notchy, but now is smooth.

 

[philsip]

Did you have the clutch replaced at the same time as the selectors? I've heard it could be a worn clutch, just not sure how a worn clutch would make 2nd become whiney.

no man it had a sach organic racing clutch fitted the year previous to then! about 2 years ago

i dont think its to do with the clutch kit to be honest though but more on the linkage adjustment

 

[philsip]

Understood, no offence intended, just your knowledge is likely greater than what I've taught myself.

Back to the topic anyway...

From my limited understanding, it is probably solely related to the gear ratios, with the speed 3rd would need to spin at to generate the same momentum as 6th, being outside of it's safe operational range. The notchiness between 1st and 2nd is an actual flaw - my car seems to have got over it though, when I bought the car it was notchy, but now is smooth.

i lad its cool! yes i see what you mean!

would i be right in thinking that as im going from 6th to 3rd to power on that 3rd gear isnt spinning fast enough to be selected? if so then its driver error on my side!

4th gear is dead easy to select from 6th so it must be spinning at the right speed to be selected!

cheers veezee think this is my answer

as for dropping down gears i may just stick to going down the gears manually 6th, 5th then 4th to 3rd!

 

[markthommo_84]

im far from an expert but isn't it similar to going into 1st whilst still moving? shouldnt go into 1st unless you're still, or just about anyways.

going down from 6th into 3rd similar situation? 3rd isnt for that? i'd imagine depends on your speed. Cruising in 6th at 50mph, i'd imagine going into 3rd would be possible?

cant really see the need to go down 3 gears though tbh, surely it means you're in the wrong gear for the situation to start with?

i'll sometimes go from 3rd to 6th, if say i'm wanting to get to speed quickly but then cruise at that speed, or 2nd-4th, 3rd-5th etc but going down the gears that way i cant say i've ever done that. 2 gears maybe, but not 3.

 

[TazB]

im far from an expert but isn't it similar to going into 1st whilst still moving? shouldnt go into 1st unless you're still, or just about anyways.

going down from 6th into 3rd similar situation? 3rd isnt for that? i'd imagine depends on your speed. Cruising in 6th at 50mph, i'd imagine going into 3rd would be possible?

cant really see the need to go down 3 gears though tbh, surely it means you're in the wrong gear for the situation to start with?

i'll sometimes go from 3rd to 6th, if say i'm wanting to get to speed quickly but then cruise at that speed, or 2nd-4th, 3rd-5th etc but going down the gears that way i cant say i've ever done that. 2 gears maybe, but not 3.

i have to agree with that, we're driving diesels not type-r's

to the op ... any probs going from 5th to 3rd? and what speeds are you doing when trying these changes?

 

[NickyJam]

i've done 6th to 3rd in my FR TDi by accident and no probs...apart from the sudden jerk to the front of the car due to the high revs, but i was gradually slowing fron about 60.

5th to 3rd should never be a problem...most cars should cope with gear jumping (except 3rd to 1st)

 

[philsip]

im far from an expert but isn't it similar to going into 1st whilst still moving? shouldnt go into 1st unless you're still, or just about anyways.

going down from 6th into 3rd similar situation? 3rd isnt for that? i'd imagine depends on your speed. Cruising in 6th at 50mph, i'd imagine going into 3rd would be possible?

cant really see the need to go down 3 gears though tbh, surely it means you're in the wrong gear for the situation to start with?

i'll sometimes go from 3rd to 6th, if say i'm wanting to get to speed quickly but then cruise at that speed, or 2nd-4th, 3rd-5th etc but going down the gears that way i cant say i've ever done that. 2 gears maybe, but not 3.

yea this is correct ! cruisin at around 50 mph then wanting to over take someone on an main road thats doing unbelieveably slow mph! i normally go into 6th gears at any chance i have with out making it struggle at a very low rpm say 1000rpm! normally 1500 rpm in 6th then droping it to 4th or 3rd depending how u want to over take the vehicle! it can either be 4th or 3rd gear i use! though never drop to 3rd if im 60mph ! 4ths ample enough!