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smoother, but there are welds, longer runs (and therefore friction) often more bends.

to be honest, a good tubular manifold (from badger5) is knocking £1200. everything else so far has cracked.
 
who or what is badger 5? i think i may leave it for a while anyway and see if anything interesting comes around. thanks for your help monk
 
yuk, i cant stand ripspeed and halfords chavy takky crap. sorry if there are people that like it but they suck. and i meant jap is too expensive for insurance compared to euro