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All just spoke to a really good dealers in Cambridge who looked into this fix and this "is" an official fix. The dealers said it would take about an hour and a half and the fix is to cut 15cm's of foam away in the internal of the front doors to allow the water to run down into the drain outs at the bottom of the doors so there is no excise by the dealers not to do this fix as it sounds like a design fault.
does this cure windscreen / rear screen probs as well or just door windows that are misting up? don't want to bother with this particular fix if it's not the cure my car needs
does this cure windscreen / rear screen probs as well or just door windows that are misting up? don't want to bother with this particular fix if it's not the cure my car needs
Hi mate not to sure but I suspect less condensation hanging around in the doors means less in the car to condensate on the windows.
Hi,
Had no huge probs with steaming up windows, nothing more than others, since owning the car.
Had heavy rain and unavoidably, ive had the doors open when its been raining, or ive sat init when wet.
This morning the inside of my windscreen was iced up and i had to scrape and squeegee it off. That splashed on the window ledge and now there are there are splash marks which ill need to clean off.
Will try de-humidifying by blower on full, full heat and AC with recirc.
Will also try one of these silica gell based things, ive seen them in B&Q for dealing with damp in rooms. Another thing ive seen is for tumble dryers, you hook them upto the vent hose so you dont need an outside vent. They absob all the moisture from the vent hose and are quite effective. I may get a duct fan and fit this to one of these boxes, this would give me a forced air dryer.
Any idea or success stories that people have had dealing with this?
Stuart
Had no huge probs with steaming up windows, nothing more than others, since owning the car.
Had heavy rain and unavoidably, ive had the doors open when its been raining, or ive sat init when wet.
This morning the inside of my windscreen was iced up and i had to scrape and squeegee it off. That splashed on the window ledge and now there are there are splash marks which ill need to clean off.
Will try de-humidifying by blower on full, full heat and AC with recirc.
Will also try one of these silica gell based things, ive seen them in B&Q for dealing with damp in rooms. Another thing ive seen is for tumble dryers, you hook them upto the vent hose so you dont need an outside vent. They absob all the moisture from the vent hose and are quite effective. I may get a duct fan and fit this to one of these boxes, this would give me a forced air dryer.
Any idea or success stories that people have had dealing with this?
Stuart
All,
Got the Seat TPI2017192/1 warranty work done on the car and the windows are bone dry now, if you are fobbed off by your dealer mention this to Seat UK as this IS an official fix.
I must say a good dealer is Marshall's in Cambridge, they looked up the TPI number got back to me on the same day and booked the car in. Warranty work carried out as described on the TPI and now I have dry windows inside.
Hope this helps.
Got the Seat TPI2017192/1 warranty work done on the car and the windows are bone dry now, if you are fobbed off by your dealer mention this to Seat UK as this IS an official fix.
I must say a good dealer is Marshall's in Cambridge, they looked up the TPI number got back to me on the same day and booked the car in. Warranty work carried out as described on the TPI and now I have dry windows inside.
Hope this helps.
silica gel is a god send with this kinda stuff. if you have any of the little packs you get in a shoe box, try sticking them somewhere. ive got one in each headlight
potter
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i understand what you are saying but when you spend nearly 20k for a car you dont expect to need a bucket to bail it out
Dunc C
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i understand what you are saying but when you spend nearly 20k for a car you dont expect to need a bucket to bail it out
Completly agree, mines going in for a service next Monday so going to quiz Seat then and have the Technical Fix code in my back pocket!!
My side windows aren't bad its always my front and rear windows that are the nightmare
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Not noticed about the screen as this was not an issue on ours anyway but less moisture inside from the windows has to be a good thing !
I think this should be a recall as if water is getting in surely this will have an effect on the electronics in the car ?
potter
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If these are known problems, should the dealers carry out these technical fixes before the car is delivered.
For example if the problem is found and then a fix released in Aug 08 should all cars after this date leaving a dealer have all the seat fixes carried out?
If so is there anyway to check them against the car
For example if the problem is found and then a fix released in Aug 08 should all cars after this date leaving a dealer have all the seat fixes carried out?
If so is there anyway to check them against the car
Ive booked my car in for its 1st on the 1st March and asked them to apply technical fix TPI2017192/1. They are going to put the car in for 1 days to do a water tightness test as for there to be such extreme condensation, there must be water getting in somewhere.
I mentioed that they may only need to apply this fix and save the time, but they feel the tightness test is required. Perhaps this test is part of the fix.
How do you do a tightness test!? Fill it water water and look for leaks? Or just blast it with a pressure washer and see where the water gets in?
Im sure there must be something to it for it to take a day. Im getting a cuteosy car as part of the service for the two days so its no great problem anyway.
Also as part of the service, ive asked them to look into a stiff change 1st gear sometimes, and paint flaking off the alloys which have no marks on them from kerbing or stones etc.
Stuart.
I mentioed that they may only need to apply this fix and save the time, but they feel the tightness test is required. Perhaps this test is part of the fix.
How do you do a tightness test!? Fill it water water and look for leaks? Or just blast it with a pressure washer and see where the water gets in?
Im sure there must be something to it for it to take a day. Im getting a cuteosy car as part of the service for the two days so its no great problem anyway.
Also as part of the service, ive asked them to look into a stiff change 1st gear sometimes, and paint flaking off the alloys which have no marks on them from kerbing or stones etc.
Stuart.
its a shame because the car itself is very nice looking in all fairness yet there are plenty of holes to fix... I suffered bad condensation with my lights and windows and I fixed the issue myself just by silica gel or just reading the forums heh.
with headlights no point using hair dryer or else you be there for hours standing like an idiot ...yes I been there...and it felt like it was going no where! so to resolve the issue I have took the cap off the plastic cover and left that out for a day and all the condensation went so I placed it back on never came back since even from a wash or a rainy day But I also stuck silica gel inside of the covers to help it.
Windows...inside I have those silica potches by the corner of the car like 1 at the back which is orange but apparently goes green when dead but other than that no other issues at all for now that is...
...I live in wales so the weather is more or less wet and moist but its not effected the leon too much.
dunno if this post helps but i thought i share it.
with headlights no point using hair dryer or else you be there for hours standing like an idiot ...yes I been there...and it felt like it was going no where! so to resolve the issue I have took the cap off the plastic cover and left that out for a day and all the condensation went so I placed it back on never came back since even from a wash or a rainy day But I also stuck silica gel inside of the covers to help it.
Windows...inside I have those silica potches by the corner of the car like 1 at the back which is orange but apparently goes green when dead but other than that no other issues at all for now that is...
...I live in wales so the weather is more or less wet and moist but its not effected the leon too much.
dunno if this post helps but i thought i share it.
Had car in for service the other week but they took it for 2 days so they can do water tests.
They called me at the end of day one saying that they found no signs of water ingress but would leave it over night to look for condensation in the morning.
They called me in the morning to say there was none- probably cos it was 12C!
I asked the about the TPI but they said it appeard to be for a diffirent thing. I said that seat UK told me that number is a common fix for excessive condensation.
They called me back to say car was ready and they applied the fix anyway.
So far ive had no condensaiton but the mornings have been warming and its generally always been over 3C so the AC can run to dehumidify the car.
They called me at the end of day one saying that they found no signs of water ingress but would leave it over night to look for condensation in the morning.
They called me in the morning to say there was none- probably cos it was 12C!
I asked the about the TPI but they said it appeard to be for a diffirent thing. I said that seat UK told me that number is a common fix for excessive condensation.
They called me back to say car was ready and they applied the fix anyway.
So far ive had no condensaiton but the mornings have been warming and its generally always been over 3C so the AC can run to dehumidify the car.
I did ask but they closed at 5.30 and i was there about 5.25 so the service staff had already left. The girl at the service desk had a look for the TPI book when i asked but coulndt see it.
She said it was something to do with removing and re-applying door seals and moving where the join in the seal is. She wasnt very sure but said i could probably call in tomorrow and ask the mechanic, which i never bothered doing.
Stuart
Hmmm, there seems to be a real 'Head Office to Main Dealer' failure of communication between SEAT UK and it's franchised dealers. Whilst I accept that to some dealers they won't care what sign is above the door as they just want to sell cars, in times as hard as these don't they see that by robbing you of good service today they are jeopardising business and reputation in the future? If it's any consolation don't think it gets any better up the VAG foodchain, it's just laced with a bit more arrogance.
Hope it gets sorted mate, these kind of stories make you mad when you think what new cars cost.
Hope it gets sorted mate, these kind of stories make you mad when you think what new cars cost.
TelLeon
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Seat TPI2017192/1 - from my experience with this problem, the "fix" mentioned is more of a work around - rather than a fix. All Seat TPI2017192/1 does is pass the problem on, by filling up the doors with water.
Cutting off the front few inches of the lower window seal doesn't say much for the design / effectiveness of the seal, which I would assume was to keep water out of the door internals (wiring / motors & speakers etc).
If you look at the shape of the lower edge (front & rear) of the window glass, you will see that it is not flat, but has a raised lower edge, meaning that the water in the outer window seal, shoots under the glass, and onto the inner window seal - hence the wet windows inside your car.
I had mine "fixed" with TP, only to have damage repairs done on one door, when the repairer refiited the new parts, the problem returned on that side 'cause the window seal was a non-modified part.
It is a shame - because it's a great car in most other respects!
Cutting off the front few inches of the lower window seal doesn't say much for the design / effectiveness of the seal, which I would assume was to keep water out of the door internals (wiring / motors & speakers etc).
If you look at the shape of the lower edge (front & rear) of the window glass, you will see that it is not flat, but has a raised lower edge, meaning that the water in the outer window seal, shoots under the glass, and onto the inner window seal - hence the wet windows inside your car.
I had mine "fixed" with TP, only to have damage repairs done on one door, when the repairer refiited the new parts, the problem returned on that side 'cause the window seal was a non-modified part.
It is a shame - because it's a great car in most other respects!
What your saying is quite worrying.
Since the reapir, ive not looked at the door to see whats changed, ill have a look when im next in the car.
Would the technical fix book not warn the mechanic of the possible future problems associated with this fix? Much like a medicine warns of side-effects.
Id have thought the door internals were designed with some water proofing. When you lower the window and its wet, the most of the water seams to stay on the window and go into the door anyway.
Is all thats protecting the door's electrical and mechanical things just that top seal against the glass?
Also, is there no drain hole or anything like that to allow condensed water to drip out the bottom of the door?
Stuart
Since the reapir, ive not looked at the door to see whats changed, ill have a look when im next in the car.
Would the technical fix book not warn the mechanic of the possible future problems associated with this fix? Much like a medicine warns of side-effects.
Id have thought the door internals were designed with some water proofing. When you lower the window and its wet, the most of the water seams to stay on the window and go into the door anyway.
Is all thats protecting the door's electrical and mechanical things just that top seal against the glass?
Also, is there no drain hole or anything like that to allow condensed water to drip out the bottom of the door?
Stuart
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