Tire weld or similar on Mk2 Leon

[jdearden]

Any of you guys got an experience using tyre sealing products?

I've got a nail in one of my tyres but I'm waiting for Rimstock to pull their finger out and make my new wheels... need a temporary measure just to get me around for a week.

cheers!

 

[m0rk]

go & get the nail removed & drilled & filled.

tyre weld is a get you to a garage (not even home) option

 

[Jarre]

Are there any updated views on this?

My Dad's BMW comes standard without a spare wheel, and instead, is supplied with the tyre weld stuff. I was thinking, if BMW feel that this stuff is good enough to not warrant a spare wheel, then maybe I could remove my spare wheel and carry this with me instead?

I know it's an emergency fix, I always go to the garage straight away when I've had to use a spare too anyway so it makes no difference in that respect.

 

[george g]

The tyre weld stuff is basically just expanding foam that sits inside the tyre.


If the nail in on the centre 3/4 of the tread then it can be repaired at a tyre place - which is the better thing to do. Alternatively, anywhere near you do part-worns?

 

[R@B]

Are there any updated views on this?

My Dad's BMW comes standard without a spare wheel, and instead, is supplied with the tyre weld stuff. I was thinking, if BMW feel that this stuff is good enough to not warrant a spare wheel, then maybe I could remove my spare wheel and carry this with me instead?

I know it's an emergency fix, I always go to the garage straight away when I've had to use a spare too anyway so it makes no difference in that respect.

99% of places won't repair the tyre as it's a nightmare to clean out and get the patch to stick so they'll want to replace the tyre.

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[Jarre]

So there's a chance that by using the stuff you could end up having to buy a new tyre rather than having it repaired. Something to consider.

I'd never buy part warn tyres - if it couldn't be repaired it would be a new tyre. I also wasn't considering using it as a fix for a proper repair either.

The reason I ask is because if I can remove the spare wheel I could put a sub and amp in the spare wheel well leaving me with a full boot and good sound

 

[george g]

I'd never buy part warn tyres

why? they are good tyres with 6-4mm of tread on them but at 50% of the cost new... great for a temporary fix.

all the part worns i have bought have been well known makes as they are mostly off police cars from the place I go to...

 

[coggie]

If something big goes in one of your tyres then tyre sealant won't fill holes larger than about 5mm, so you'll be stuck at the side of the road.

Keep the spare wheel!

 

[Jarre]

I don't like the idea of part warns, you don't know the history etc. I wonder why the police are getting rid of perfectly good tyres? Seems a waste of money doesn't it?!

Yeah there is that risk. I had a huge screw go in my tyre before on the Clio. The AA managed to plug it and that hole must have been bigger than 5mm! It did hold up pretty well too as I travelled 50miles or so in that before I got it sorted.

 

[kazand]

why? they are good tyres with 6-4mm of tread on them but at 50% of the cost new... great for a temporary fix.

all the part worns i have bought have been well known makes as they are mostly off police cars from the place I go to...

Ah ex police tyres. They'll have been well looked after won't they? high speed pursuits, kerbs, speed bumps at speed, cars fully loaded , oh yes. Not abused in any way, shape or form. You often hear the comment on "Police, Motorway, Camera" ....."Watch the tyres!"

 

[george g]

Ah ex police tyres. They'll have been well looked after won't they? high speed pursuits, kerbs, speed bumps at speed, cars fully loaded , oh yes. Not abused in any way, shape or form. You often hear the comment on "Police, Motorway, Camera" ....."Watch the tyres!"

The reason they get rid is beacuse there is a proven drop off in performance below 6mm in tread during wet conditions.

I mean there is being paranoid about tyres, and there is being silly. Using £10 of expanding foam in a tyre to try and last the next few weeks with a weaker tyre trying to get to when your new wheels are delivered or spend £25 on a part worn that you know has no perforations in the tyre skin... your call, but I would put money that the part worn is much safer... a good tyre place that sells part worns will let you inspect the tyres first anyway... like i said above, for a temporary measure, part worns are by far the safest option!

 

[Wimbledonian]

99% of places won't repair the tyre as it's a nightmare to clean out and get the patch to stick so they'll want to replace the tyre.

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Most tyre shops near me are happy to plug the tyre for £15. I've had it done many times as new rears always seem to pick up nails.

 

[kazand]

The reason they get rid is beacuse there is a proven drop off in performance below 6mm in tread during wet conditions.

I mean there is being paranoid about tyres, and there is being silly. Using £10 of expanding foam in a tyre to try and last the next few weeks with a weaker tyre trying to get to when your new wheels are delivered or spend £25 on a part worn that you know has no perforations in the tyre skin... your call, but I would put money that the part worn is much safer... a good tyre place that sells part worns will let you inspect the tyres first anyway... like i said above, for a temporary measure, part worns are by far the safest option!

I don't call being concerned with the only thing that keeps me on the road rather than in a ditch silly or paranoid. Either with 265bhp or 140. Temporary or not.

 

[george g]

I don't call being concerned with the only thing that keeps me on the road rather than in a ditch silly or paranoid. Either with 265bhp or 140. Temporary or not.

So your response to the OP's question is "new or nothing" then? Their question was, can they fill it with sealant... struggling to see how a broken tyre with sealant is less dangerous than a part worn tyre of good make?

I do, however, call it paranoid seeing as the tyres are made to a standard minimum specification and the manufacturer has this minimum standard in mind. Generally speaking - the more a tyre costs, the further beyond the specification the tyres have been made, or atleast the more tailor made the tyres become... in essence even the most budget tyres can and will meet all the minimum requirements your car needs. Then its all down to how you drive.

 

[kazand]

So your response to the OP's question is "new or nothing" then? Their question was, can they fill it with sealant... struggling to see how a broken tyre with sealant is less dangerous than a part worn tyre of good make?

I do, however, call it paranoid seeing as the tyres are made to a standard minimum specification and the manufacturer has this minimum standard in mind. Generally speaking - the more a tyre costs, the further beyond the specification the tyres have been made, or atleast the more tailor made the tyres become... in essence even the most budget tyres can and will meet all the minimum requirements your car needs. Then its all down to how you drive.

I wasn't responding to op's question , just your comment on second hand tyres being ok because they are ex police, your comment that "all tyres are made to a standard" whilst true only applies to the tyre as it leaves the factory. The manufacturers then have no control over how its used, so plod can bash the living daylights out of it then effectively scrap it when its got 6mm or less on it, because as you say "the performance deteriorates in the wet" clearly no longer fit for use then. Office I was that strapped for cash that I couldn't afford to fit a brand new tyre of a type recommended for my car then I'd sell it because clearly I cannot afford to run it. The safety of myself and whoever travels in the vehicle with me are of paramount importance. I'd no more fit second hand tyres than I would brake pads. I recently forked out nearly £400 on two new fronts due to pothole damage. The damaged ones had done 7500 miles and still had 50% wear left in them. Did I consider budgets ? No. I don't have a budget body and nor does my GF and I'd like to keep it that way.
If you wish to fit second hand tyres its your choice.

 

[Crafoo]

We all like a bargain but fitting second hand tyres or brakes is not something I would ever consider doing, if everything else fails you want to know that you have decent tyres and brakes to rely on.

The beemer mentioned earlier in this thread that came without a spare wheel may be because most BMW's tend to come with runflats so it's not deemed necesarry.

 

[Jarre]

All I asked was, is tyre sealant as good as a spare tyre to get me (max) 10 miles to a tyre place...

@george - I don't want to use the stuff for 'a few weeks', I'd use it to allow me to travel to the nearest tyre place. With regards to part worn tyres off police cars - If the tyres aren't good enough for the police car, they aren't good enough for my car. I'd rather have a new tyre.

@Crafoo - My Dad's BMW doesn't have run flat, and it doesn't have a spare tyre. That's why I questioned how good the tyre weld stuff is

I don't understand how people can be happy running budgets, they may fit the specification, but my experience of budget tyres is not good. As above, in wet/icy and even dry conditions, your tyres are your only contact with the ground, surely you'd want to ensure that the grip is as good as it can be to ensure you're safe?

 

[kazand]

All I asked was, is tyre sealant as good as a spare tyre to get me (max) 10 miles to a tyre place...

@george - I don't want to use the stuff for 'a few weeks', I'd use it to allow me to travel to the nearest tyre place. With regards to part worn tyres off police cars - If the tyres aren't good enough for the police car, they aren't good enough for my car. I'd rather have a new tyre.

@Crafoo - My Dad's BMW doesn't have run flat, and it doesn't have a spare tyre. That's why I questioned how good the tyre weld stuff is

I don't understand how people can be happy running budgets, they may fit the specification, but my experience of budget tyres is not good. As above, in wet/icy and even dry conditions, your tyres are your only contact with the ground, surely you'd want to ensure that the grip is as good as it can be to ensure you're safe?

I'd say you'd be ok with the sealant to use as you describe, it's good enough to be fitted as OEM in a lot of cars now. However as others have said be aware tyre place may not repair it or may apply an extra charge to do so. Robbin b'stards

 

[dw911]

We all like a bargain but fitting second hand tyres or brakes is not something I would ever consider doing, if everything else fails you want to know that you have decent tyres and brakes to rely on.

The beemer mentioned earlier in this thread that came without a spare wheel may be because most BMW's tend to come with runflats so it's not deemed necesarry.

Ever bought a second hand car?

Did that not come with second or even third hand tyres and brakes?

That's not to say anyone's personal opinion is right or wrong, just putting a bit of perspective on it as its not as simple as staying I'd never fit second hand, often you all ready have by buying a used car

 

[Dan_FR_21]

All I asked was, is tyre sealant as good as a spare tyre to get me (max) 10 miles to a tyre place...

Personal I would stay away from these repair kits. Before my Leon I had a 2007 Civic where these repair kits are standard and there is a lot of debate on how "useful" they are on the CivicInfo forum.

For me there is way too many short falls if the kit is the same as the Honda's. A guy on the forum said it perfectly "if you get a puncture that is repairable at a shop the repair kit make the tyre a write off. If you get a puncture that can't be repaired at a shop more than likely the repair kit won't seal and won't work."

When I picked the car up and was told it was a repair kit I though great you just whack the sealant in and pump the tyre back up. A few months later when cleaning out the car I found a jack and couldn't work out why I would need one, so I got the repair kit out and read the instructions.

Step 1 - using the jack remove the tyre. <-- Half the process of swapping for a space saver.
Step 2 - using pliers that look like they came out of a Christmas cracker to remove the object that caused the puncture. <-- That sounds fun on a cold December night on the side of the motorway.
Step 3 - remove valve from the tyre and pour in the sealant liquid.
Step 4 - refit value, inflate tyre using pump and refit tyre.

Also I have heard but not sure if it is true that breakdown companies will charge you if the repair kit fails to seal the tyre and you need to be towed to a tyre shop. But I would guess that's more to do with the level of cover you have got.

Ever bought a second hand car?

Did that not come with second or even third hand tyres and brakes?

That's not to say anyone's personal opinion is right or wrong, just putting a bit of perspective on it as its not as simple as staying I'd never fit second hand, often you all ready have by buying a used car

Good point.