Torque Steer

pauliepaul

stop making my car dirty
Aug 19, 2007
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i found some wheels i just HAD to buy on ebay- some newly refurbished vrs wheels in yes you guessed it gunmetal grey. not bad for 250 bob!
 

Ad Lav

vRS...
Nov 10, 2006
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Kent
Not bad mate, bloody copycats!!

Going to have to get some new wheels now as i'm no longer unique!
 

Ibiza 130 tdi

Black Magic
Jan 15, 2007
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Somerset
Mine torque steers in 2nd no matter what the weather. Take your hands off the wheel and flat it in second, it goes mental! I love it! :D:lol: But i think most cars pull? I know mine pulls sligtly to the left. It might just be the camber of the road, the roads might be made on the slant to drain water off it or something?
 

rocketmanbdl

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Went in to my local seat dealer today, they confirmed that they do torque steer and can easily be effected by the cambers in the road and that the only thing I should do it keep an eye on my front tyres, if they wear uneavenly then something else is up!
 

muddyboots

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Oct 16, 2002
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Went in to my local seat dealer today, they confirmed that they do torque steer and can easily be effected by the cambers in the road and that the only thing I should do it keep an eye on my front tyres, if they wear uneavenly then something else is up!

TBH that sounds like the dealer just fobbing you off.

But yes, keep a very close eye on your tyres, if one of your bushes or something similar has gone, it'll eat tyres for breakfast.

If like you say it's pulling you across lanes on the motorway I still think something else is wrong.
 

rocketmanbdl

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maybe so, they were happy to take the car in under warrenty and have a look but everything they described to me sounded exactly like what my car was doing. This may sound dumb but wat do the bush's on the suspension do??? I'll keep an eye on it for a week or so, if i notice change in the tyres it'll be going in
 

muddyboots

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Oct 16, 2002
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There are two front suspension arms, one at each side.
On the inboard end of each one, are two joints, which allow the arms to pivot up and down, so you get your up/down suspension travel. These joints contain rubber bushes, essential to reduce the amount of vibration transmitted through the car.
However, these arms must not be allowed to move backwards or forwards, otherwise the geometry will change - if they do move backwards or forwards, the attached front wheel will turn one way or the other.
Sometimes the rubber bushes perish or deteriorate, allowing this sort of movement.

Mk4 Ibizas, well the earlier ones anyway, had rubber bushes which commonly failed because they were made with large voids in, allowing lots of movement and rubbish handling...
The Cupra had solid rubber bushes which was a big improvement - I can't remember whether Seat started fitting them to all Mk4 or just the Cupras.
 

muddyboots

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Look at this picture, you can just about make out the bottom suspension arm. This is the passenger side.
On the right hand side of the photo is one of the pivots, it's this rear one of the two on each arm that used to fail.

(By the way, the suspension strut - spring & shock absorber - are removed in this photo!)

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bobmcgod

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Jan 22, 2007
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Cars torque steer. It's just what happens when to much power is applied to quickly for the car to handle it. Every machine is different so some are obviously going to handle it better than others. And uprating stuff like anti roll bars will help control it. Don't worry about it, as long as you don't drive like a twat it shouldn't really affect you. But if it's veering off for no reason, go get in checked out, but not by stealers in Darlington the receptionist's a right cow.
 

chrisallday

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pulling to the left

I have just recently had my 56 plate Ibiza serviced and told them about the pulling to the left. The Daivid Penman dealership told me that all Ibizas pull to the left due to the fact they have two different steering arms, one slightly longer than the other. A bit odd if you ask me...:confused:
 

bobmcgod

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Jan 22, 2007
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Yeah they're rubbish there. I over heard said cow telling a customer that his car uses a litre of oil every thousand miles. The one at the other end of the a66 in middlesbrough (It's not as bad as channel 4 say) is much better. As long as you avoid the asian (not be racist in anyway!) salesman. He doesn't know what he's talking about and uses the same line every single time you go in. "Where you the person that phoned earlier?"
 

bobmcgod

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Jan 22, 2007
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I just thought it odd it was a diesel ibiza i don't know which one but my dads alahambra doesn't even use that much.
 

kriso

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Jan 29, 2007
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If it's a new diesel then it could use that much. My derv Cupra used loads when brand new but I haven't had to top up petrol one up at all yet.
 

chrisallday

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I actually bought my call from the said asian chap hence the reason I took it somewhere else to get it fixed on the several occasions it has stopped working. The engine management system is shocking.
 
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