What do i need for KO4 On LC?

[Dodson]

Hi guys,well i own a MY03 Leon cupra,completely standard at the moment,i have howevere been thinking of a re-map.

Now the good and evil are arguing in my head....

The goods argument: "just get it remapped and a filter and uprated DV and leave it at that running about 210 BHP?"

The bads Argument: " why not buy a KO4 turbo wlong with injectors and then get the filter and then get the re-map and other things and look at more like 265 BHP?"

Now the bad is really my favourite at the best of times so the questions are...

1. If i bolted the KO4 turbo on,and the injectors would i automatically have 225 BHP or would i need the ECU out of the donor car?

2. What other things would i need apart from just the turbo and injectors cos it all sounds a bi easy!

3. If i then went and got it remapped would it just go straight upto to 260-265ish!?

4. Am i completely wrong and miles out with all this?

5. When i had put the new turbo on,would i then buy other engine parts such as filter and T.I.P and DV for a LCR rather than a LC???

Help mega appreciated here guys thanks.

 

[BlackCupraa]

Could try a turbo upgrade from somewhere like JBS or A+M depending on your location.

Hand them a few grand and a week or so later LCR esque power

 

[CupraSteve]

you would need all the rubber piping to go with it.

Also you would need to lower the compression of the engine ideally, the R also runs different pistons iirc
not to mention the R is twin intercooler

 

[Dodson]

So its a hell of a lot more difficult then i originally imagined?

 

[WeeJase]

different manifold too iirc charge pipes oil feeds etc etc.
k03 sport is a straight bolt on and will map to around 240bhp,maybe a cheaper/easier option

 

[CupraSteve]

is k03s a std turbo? how do u know what you have and whats the diff?

 

[BlackCupraa]

He should already have a KO3S tho surely??

 

[Dodson]

Yeh surely i should have a KO3s?

Re-mappable to 240!!??

 

[BlackCupraa]

Re-Mappable to 240 yes but lots of pennies

Exhaust
CAI
DV
FMIC
4Bar FPR
Plus other "little bits"
Then add Custom-Code stage 2 or Revo stage 2 etc

And you should be hitting 240ish BHP (may be more may be less)

 

[WeeJase]

http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showthread.php?t=81715

 

[CupraSteve]

saw that, where are the k03s's on as std then?

 

[traumapat]

hiya mate
jabba got my ko3s to push 240bhp

i have a miltek downpipe and a dynatwist air filter.

if i go further.... jbs offer a ko4 hybrid which should give 290/300ish

ko4 as already said wont bolt on. so by the time youve got it running its going to have cost a fair bit. and it will give less bhp than the hybrid

then theres ihi which can produce 350+ but my internals will proberly melt at 330!

im considering the ko4 hybrid.....

 

[WeeJase]

saw that, where are the k03s's on as std then?

i'm not sure but i think the wording may be a bit misleading in that thread.
150 bhp golf/octaviaL+K/a3/passat=k03
180 bhp leon cupra/golf/octaviaVRS=k03s
forgive me for giving you the wrong impression mate,though the above may still be wrong

 

[Pabs]

My K03s on my LC supposedly remapped to 235bhp so far (with all my bits and pieces on - exhaust, fpr etc etc)

TBH I'd not bother with a K04 - Its not going to give a big enough increase to warrant the spending - if i read right you need manifold, new remap, and other bits n pieces and for the 30odd brake you'd get extra (k04's push to 260/270?) you'd be better off putting the money onto an ATP eliminator etc.....

don't forget - bigger turbo = more power = bigger stopping distance - therefore safety often dictates bigger brakes (of some form).....

 

[CupraSteve]

and the brembo gt kit is £995 and wont fit behind standard cupra rims

 

[Pabs]

if you went brembos - different alloys would be needed too so you could fit them underneath... so probably 18's...

EDIT - beaten to it

 

[CupraSteve]

a cupra is a bit lighter than a lcr aswell so power to weight will be better, a 240cupra probably wouldnt be a million miles off a 265 cupra r

 

[traumapat]

a cupra is a bit lighter than a lcr aswell so power to weight will be better, a 240cupra probably wouldnt be a million miles off a 265 cupra r

big difference? weightwise?

 

[CupraSteve]

LC = 1308kg
LCR = 1376 kg

kerb weights

about a persons weight extra

 

[Dodson]

Some interestin reading there guys.

Majorly respect and thank the help recieved!