What would you do? Advice greatly appreciated.

[EB-80]

I own (since 06) a tdi110. It's only done 60k and been used by my wife to ferry the kids about.

I'm using it as a daily now. I can't live with it as is though.

After been directed here by another member (Thanks) my question is....

Should I a: Fit hybrid turbo, fmic, injectors and a remap hoping for 180-200 bhp or
B: Fit a complete pd150 engine and box? Maybe uprated clutch, hybrid turbo and remap at a later date?

Which would you do and which is more cost effective.

Thanks in advance!

 

[Brettyboy]

No need to fit pd150 engine as the turbo & egr etc bolts straight on to a 110

 

[EB-80]

No need to fit pd150 engine as the turbo & egr etc bolts straight on to a 110

I know but isnt the injection system and intercooler and induction system and gearbox all upgrated on the PD150?

My thoughts were it might be a better staring point.

 

[Brettyboy]

Alot of work & is it worth it,might as well buy a a fr pd150 then remap it,most are getting 200bhp

 

[vroomtshh]

I'd map it and be done with

 

[andycupra]

either:
remap it only.

or get another car.

 

[EB-80]

I understand where your coming from lads but if you had to choose either, of my options which would be best?

cheers

 

[Fozzy 89]

Both gonna cost silly money I would sell and buy bigger

Lets face it your gonna spend all this money and not get really no good power you may as well put money towards a faster car in first place

 

[EB-80]

The car is now registered as my company car. It's staying with us.

So maybe wind in the plans slightly? PD150 turbo (hybrid maybe) fmic, PD150 intake and airbox plus a remap for now?

 

[Nam-uk]

you want the car to last long, do your self a favour and do not do them mods

 

[cocadave]

pd150 turbo and a remap will probably set you back just under a grand and will probably see around 170 if your lucky

 

[Pimped up vario]

I've read some reports that the 150 pd engine can suffer from cam failures with more frequency than the 110 bhp engine. Put a 3 bar map sensor, 0.216 bosio or 0.240 high flo x nossles in and a remap and you'll be more than happy boy. Only thing on that front is that I never measured my exhaust gas temps on my 110 bhp leon when I had a similar setup and the vnt turbos are supposed to suport approx 850 deg celcius. It might be worth fitting a EGT gauge to keep an eye on things.

 

[Nam-uk]

nossles are the future .

 

[EB-80]

Right I''ll do some more research. Thanks.

 

[EB-80]

The plan is now to fit PD150 pump and uprated nozzles. Either a hybrid or PD150 turbo, FMIC and a remap.

Thats after I find a Cupra R front bumper to finish the kit off.

 

[Muttley]

Don't forget you need to replace the fuel system from the tank forward, the PD is completely different.

But before you do that you need new front uprights so you can fit proper brakes, the FN3 calipers and 280 or 312mm disks from the bigger-engined cars.

 

[EB-80]

Don't forget you need to replace the fuel system from the tank forward, the PD is completely different.

But before you do that you need new front uprights so you can fit proper brakes, the FN3 calipers and 280 or 312mm disks from the bigger-engined cars.

TT brakes already waiting 312mm with callipers and mk4 golf hubs.

So what exactly do I need then if someone would be kind enough lay it out so I know what I need to source. Cheers

 

[Pimped up vario]

Like muttley says pd pump system is quite different and not worth the hassle. An 12 mm pump would do the trick but are expensive. You can get an 11mm pump from an 90 bhp TDI golf/ibiza/audi 80 etc with an automatic gearbox. That should see you up to around 200 bhp maybe a bit more at a push.

 

[EB-80]

Like muttley says pd pump system is quite different and not worth the hassle. An 12 mm pump would do the trick but are expensive. You can get an 11mm pump from an 90 bhp TDI golf/ibiza/audi 80 etc with an automatic gearbox. That should see you up to around 200 bhp maybe a bit more at a push.

Thats epic info mate thank you. So a fuel pump only from a 90bhp golf mk4? with uprated flow nozzles, FMIC, Snail upgrade and remap should get me good figures without being silly money?!

 

[Pimped up vario]

Thats epic info mate thank you. So a fuel pump only from a 90bhp golf mk4? with uprated flow nozzles, FMIC, Snail upgrade and remap should get me good figures without being silly money?!

It has to be a car with automatic gearbox. It has a bigger pump in the engine bay. I don't know at what power level you need to put in a bigger lift pump in the tank. There is always one thing that will limit the total power output. The standard intercooler will support about 170bhp as will 0.216um nossles (bosio ones anyway). Standard vnt turbo will support 170 bhp max like I mean ragged edge.

Cost? nossles £175. Pump from breakers? £90 . 3bar map sensor £35 ish . FMIC is a hard one to call unless you know of one. I only know of forge £600 or ebay universal at £250ish . 130 bhp asz turbo. £600 or so from eurocarparts for original one. You could try breakers but your always taking a chance. A turbo reconditioning centre might be a bit better or try turbo dynamics to see if they could help you out with a hybrid unit and take your turbo. I know it's not like for like but if you don't ask you don't get. Remap about £300 average up to £500. That setup should get 190 - 220 bhp if you go for an ARL turbo instead of an ASZ one. You'll need an uprated clutch and a solid flywheel. A golf VR6 does the job (someone correct me if I'm wrong.) I solid flywheel from an AHU tdi engined golf or Ibiza would also do the job. Clutch £80 -100 and flywheel £40 from breakers.

Hope this helps.