Which Fuel??

[Jonny_Paul]

Nah, he was calling ME a numpty

Since I got my LCR I've always used 98 or better but I ran my old LC on 95 for 2 years and had no problems at all. Yes it ran better on 98 but the engine didn't blow up on 'evil' 95.

see this is why i came and ask, for proof and good advice. From this i can take its ok to run a LC on 95ron.

 

[Mitchy]

Yes 180bhp from a 1.8t engine is a performance vehicle IMO.

Its not supercar performance no, but it will still do 150mph and 0-60 in 7secs so yes i do think it is a performance vehicle! A car that does 0-60 in 15 secs with a top speed of 100mph is not!

Your digging yourself a bigger hole. Its YOU who is in the wrong by disobeying what it says in the instruction manual

People who are saying they use ron 95 are not offering good advice, how can they be when in black and white it says you may suffer engine failure.

Just because they haven't doesn't mean that you wont! Do they rev the car above 4000rpm for example, you dont know!

Ill leave it at that as im getting fed up with you

 

[andycupra]

for clarity, this is what it says on the inside of the fuel cap:

98 / 95
ron / roz
super plus
super
premium

its exactly the same on a LC as the LCR.

you CAN run a LC and LCR on 95 ron. no problem.
However i do think they respond well to super.

make your own minds up, i get flamed evertime i say you can run a LCR on 95 ron...

however, one thought for you, if you cant run then on 95 ron, why does one of the leading tuners offer a remap and the ability to switch between a 95ron and 98 ron programme?
why does revo give you intruction and recommended settings for 95 ron as well as super?
why does the sticker on the inside of the filler cap state premium as one of the options?

would seat really sell cars that could only use fuel that was only available at one garage company (think back few years when car was new)

dont let the scare mongers pressure you.

 

[nibbles]

girls girls girls i think all has been said put ur hand bags away

 

[Mitchy]

I've never once said that you cant run it on 95 fuel, ive said it is not advised as it says so in the manual.

Again you are just a Bob off of this forum offering bad advice of your own experiences!

What happens if his 1st tank of 95 blows a piston, will you take the blame and say '' well i never had any problems so i didn't think you would''

Revo will detune and pull timing in order for you to run on 95 fuel. They will make it safe to do so, its exactly the same if you went to revo and said i want you to tune my car solely for 102ron.

Premium as an option? Are you mis interpreting the 98 Ron part?

98 ron only im sure it says.

It has Roz on it also which is a german equivelant, the ''premium'' word may be used in conjunction with this, ie premium fuel in Germany may be that of 95 Roz/98 ron?

 

[ElasticTangent]

Isn't the reason of coming onto a forum to ask for other peoples experiences??? Anyone can sit and read the manual. No one here is saying do one thing or the other. Just offering a point of view.

 

[cupra r rob]

I was under the impression that you got more miles to a tank useing 98+ ron. (BP Ulitimate 30 miles extra to the tank on the advert) so whats the problem, more miles, looking after the life of your engine and better performance.

I only use v-power, (get a plus points card and use enough v-power fuel every 3 months and they upgrade you to the v-power club, get free vouchers etc).

Another thing, might be wrong but herd that tescos fuel was tested a bit back and the ron in their fuel was lower than 98.

Shells must be the best, dont they advice new evo owners to only use shell optimax.

Never new that about the roz thing either.

 

[The MoffMeister]

what ron is v power rob??

 

[Cupra Ross]

95 Roz is the german equivelant of 98 Ron fuel used here in UK.

I wonder how many ''numpties'' think it means you can safely use 95 ron

Errr no it aint mate. I live in Germany and you can get:

Benzin (91/93 RON),
Super (95 RON),
Super Plus (98 RON),
V-Power (100 RON) or
Aral (BP) Ultimate (100 RON)

All pumps are labeled in RON and are tested by the Stadt (local government) at regular intervals to ensure that this is the absolute minimum octane level of the fuel.

And for the record, you can run a 1.8T on 95RON petrol. All the manual says is that a performance decrease should be expected. I run mine on Aral (German name for BP) Ultimate 100 RON. I believe that running on 95 RON petrol is a false economy. You get less performance and less mileage from each tank compared to 98 RON or higher.

Also, Shell V-Power is not as good in my experience as BP Ultimate. My car performs far better and gets a good 20-30 miles more to a tank on BP Ultimate.

 

[andycupra]

the manual says 98 ron, but it also says 95 ron can be used at a slight loss in power.

id recommend super, i found cars run better and you get a few more miles. (i get more from shell than tescos 99 ron or not).

however, it is perfectly ok to use 95 ron.

 

[janowski1980]

im sure its 98, tesco do 99 but its not of good quality. Optimax is way ahead.

 

[cupra r rob]

what ron is v power rob??

I belive its 99, when it was optimax i was told it was more like 100, not sure how true that is tho.

 

[cupra r rob]

what ron is v power rob??

http://www.shell.com/home/Framework...ts/fuels/vpower_p/vpower_p_about_ga_1602.html

 

[The MoffMeister]

ah ok thats why my car seemed to run better than tesco, plus if i remember rightly the reason supermarket petrol is cheaper its because they dont get the additives put in it!! so shell me up from now on lol

 

[Jonny_Paul]

thanks for the good feedback lads, alot of you seem to be coming back with the same opinion!

 

[Mitchy]

Errr no it aint mate. I live in Germany and you can get:

Benzin (91/93 RON),
Super (95 RON),
Super Plus (98 RON),
V-Power (100 RON) or
Aral (BP) Ultimate (100 RON)

All pumps are labeleb in RON.

And for the record, you can run a 1.8T on 95RON petrol. All the manual says is that a performance decrease should be expected. I run mine on Aral (German name for BP) Ultimate 100 RON. I believe that running on 95 RON petrol is a false economy. You get less performance and less mileage from each tank compared to 98 RON or higher.

Also, Shell V-Power is not as good in my experience as BP Ultimate. My car performs far better and gets a good 20-30 miles more to a tank on BP Ultimate.

Well forgive me for getting the country wrong, i thought the Roz word was German

Must be that of another country then as its not used in the UK either

 

[cupra r rob]

ah ok thats why my car seemed to run better than tesco, plus if i remember rightly the reason supermarket petrol is cheaper its because they dont get the additives put in it!!

A mate told me the same thing the other day.

 

[The MoffMeister]

must admit rob it does sound the trick after reading that!!

 

[Mitchy]

thanks for the good feedback lads, alot of you seem to be coming back with the same opinion!

3 people have so far told you its okay to use 95 ron. Its just Andycupra has told you more than once.

I wouldn't call that scientific proof that its okay to do though.

My mum uses to say, ''if he jumped off a bridge, would you do the same''

Sounds like the case here

Yes it will run on 95 ron, thats all you really need to know! If its good for the engine is a total different argument.

 

[andycupra]

ROZ means:
"Research-Oktan-Zahl"
its desription is that same as RON ie the resistance to detonation.

if the cap said:
98 ron / 95 roz. then i would agree it says 98 and 95 roz.
but it doesnt.
it says:

98 / 95
ron / roz
super plus
super
premium

if you could only use 98 ron surely they would print it as:
98 ron
95 roz
super plus
super
premium

but they didnt.

Lets STOP arguing and agree:

you can use 95 or 98 ron.
however using 98 ron will often see more miles from your tank therefore in the overall scheme of things an extra £3 to get something like optimax over 95 ron is proably money well spent if you get 20 or more miles out of a tank.