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Who is going stage 2
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As happens with ALL users intent on using SCN for their own commercial gain without our permission.
Our injectors and fuel pump are fine for up to 300bhp
245hp+ is quite attainable from the stock engine with a properly designed exhaust system... the reason we don't do it is because it will break the clutch set-up... we will be holding off until a suitable upgrade to the DSG system is developed.
IMO, Chris has the highest available performance within the safe threshold of the transmission
Pushing 245 bhp from K03 will need to have such high boost pressure that first is going to reduce the life limit of the turbine by alot because no way you ll get that number without turning the WG to the max and also raise the torque to high levels, hence going to a bigger turbine is a safer and more reliable solution.
What sort of bhp and torque figures Chris has?
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I dont know about you guys but here in greece cars with stock IC suffer, for a simple Stage 1 can easily see 50 Degrees ++
GrDuDe we have not had any updates from you ina while mate. what's been happening with your car? How is the new setup working for you and have you fine tuned the map yet?
Yeah i am done with the car since January, i posted my results @ 250bhp, i was planning to go for further remap because the number wasnt what i expected but after a few races the car proved to be faster than I thought, so i am happy to stay like this.
The car is working like a charm without any issues and i dont want to sacrifice reliability for an extra10-15 bhp. I came to realise that a Stage 2 is tops for this car, after that you loose alot and spent alot to gain little. Now i want a 2.0l to play in the bigger league hihihihi.
LOL. You are mad mate. So are you going to give us the break down on the turbo upgrade then for those of us that want to do it? I also think we need a few more vids too.
exactly what i was going to point out. The IATs will go above 30degrees easily. For him to say something like anything over 30degrees is a no no, but doesnt say why or justify his answer as most tuners would says to me that he buys his maps in and literally just uploads them to the cars with little knowledge of what has been done or can be done. Might be wrong but thats my thoughts on it. Im quite critical when it comes to tuners touching my car and i do alot of research into it and like a bit of 'probing' lol. My ethos is if your spending 15k+ on a car then surely you shouldnt be skimping on something as important as the engine managment system
That said buying a map in is fine providing the map is of good quality. Its when they use ebay maps
As you say to get 245hp you have to raise the boost, if you raise the boost the IATs will rise substantially as well.
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Not saying there crap but until it was mentioned on here I hadnt even heard of ecotune as an option for tuning and I am local around the area its never been heard of around here before not saying its a bad map but my two pences worth if I want stage 2 software I will go south of the border for it
beating a stock mk6 GTI isnt really an achievment tbh. they not quick as standard only 207hp/207lbft. but they get gains. a remap alone will give more gains on the 2.0TSI, that the Ibiza cupra will get with a stage 2 map and TBE
215hp/220lbft Ibiza Cupra (1170kg) has 183hp/ton and 188lbft/ton
245hp/230lbft Ibiza cupra (1170kg) has 209Hp/ton and 196lbft/ton.
Stage 1 260hp/320lbft GTI 2.0TSI (1350kg) has 192hp/ton and 237lbft/ton
Stage 2 300Hp/345lbft GTI 2.0TSI (1350kg) has 222hp/ton and 255lbft/ton
Power to weight is everything in a cars performance. The GTI also will often have DSG as well.
So id imagine the stock would get annihilated, stage 1 will be close, but you wouldnt catch a stage 2 on anything other than a traffic light gran prix even with the 245hp
215hp/220lbft Ibiza Cupra (1170kg) has 183hp/ton and 188lbft/ton
245hp/230lbft Ibiza cupra (1170kg) has 209Hp/ton and 196lbft/ton.
Stage 1 260hp/320lbft GTI 2.0TSI (1350kg) has 192hp/ton and 237lbft/ton
Stage 2 300Hp/345lbft GTI 2.0TSI (1350kg) has 222hp/ton and 255lbft/ton
Power to weight is everything in a cars performance. The GTI also will often have DSG as well.
So id imagine the stock would get annihilated, stage 1 will be close, but you wouldnt catch a stage 2 on anything other than a traffic light gran prix even with the 245hp
mmmmm the vid I saw was a 300BHP gti rolling run from 30mph smashed the gti by 1.5 car lengths.
Lol well when I'm 2+ we will find out hopefully think I'm going to be safe to be honest lol and also while the gti has got lag ill be Beefing off with my supercharger and constant power and epic fast gear changes. It's not always about power to weight ratio it plays a massive part I agree but in our case there isn't a lot of cars with the same power and power delivery as ours from the supercharger and then turbo then gear change and instant power again
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the video is on youtube.. saw it ealier on.. GrDuDe_Cupra's cupra kicks that golf A**.. tho it was at its lowest boost pressure.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENHR9_f_1ss
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENHR9_f_1ss
Lol well when I'm 2+ we will find out hopefully think I'm going to be safe to be honest lol and also while the gti has got lag ill be Beefing off with my supercharger and constant power and epic fast gear changes. It's not always about power to weight ratio it plays a massive part I agree but in our case there isn't a lot of cars with the same power and power delivery as ours from the supercharger and then turbo then gear change and instant power again
at full rev gear changes the supercharger wont be any use to you. I guess that vid doesnt show the initial start. could have been lag in low gear in 2nd with the golf maybe. Could well have been a manual i guess, plus it is only 600m which at full acceleration is not a very long distance at all,
i think against most cars the 1.4TSI in something as small as a cupra/vRS will be in the lead until 3 figures, then it'll drop off.
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exactly what i was going to point out. The IATs will go above 30degrees easily. For him to say something like anything over 30degrees is a no no, but doesnt say why or justify his answer as most tuners would says to me that he buys his maps in and literally just uploads them to the cars with little knowledge of what has been done or can be done. Might be wrong but thats my thoughts on it. Im quite critical when it comes to tuners touching my car and i do alot of research into it and like a bit of 'probing' lol. My ethos is if your spending 15k+ on a car then surely you shouldnt be skimping on something as important as the engine managment system
That said buying a map in is fine providing the map is of good quality. Its when they use ebay maps
As you say to get 245hp you have to raise the boost, if you raise the boost the IATs will rise substantially as well.
I think I'll go out and do some comparative logging in the Cupra at the weekend. IAT vs boost at differing levels and see what we see. Like you - I'm pretty confident that it'll see 30C and then some.
how can you explain the instant power and absolutely zero lag when you change gear at full revs i dont get it? have you actually driven a stage 1 or 2 cupra stage 2 mainly do you know how well my car pulls over 100mph? even in 6th accelerating from 80 i have hit 140 very easily i think these cars will be very competitive throughout with stage 2+ even over 100mph
That Golf has fully forged engine with Precision 5857. @ 1.65 bar produces 500+.
With switched off Boost controller is 300bhp. Even he admitted that we could have even tried @ 1.3bar. Races with such big difference in engine 2.0vs 1.4l and such a beast for turbine it would have been pointless to go for anything more than 700-800m.
Edit: For those who dont know what a 5857 is here is a pic
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