Maxcars1, ibiza tdi detail

Scotty_b

Leon Cupra 300R
Jun 3, 2004
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Is that 5 hours because you do it every day or that the menza is so good? Clean and shiney have a great deal on it at the mo but there out of stock!
 
Is that 5 hours because you do it every day or that the menza is so good? Clean and shiney have a great deal on it at the mo but there out of stock!

LOL.. I'd like to say both :p

5 hours was just the machining time, not including washing, claying etc.

Menz 106ff or the new 106fa and the 3.01 or 3.02 really are in my mind the best polishes on the market, in fact I've just received another 2lts of from Clean Your Car (SCN Site sponsor as well :) ) he'll also from what I remember match any price (fingers crossed I got that right)
 

Scotty_b

Leon Cupra 300R
Jun 3, 2004
6,026
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Hertfordshire
Thats all good, i have the old version of the menza(cant remeber what there called). Just wondering if the machine versions are worth the upgrade?
 
If you have a PC or Rotary then without knowing which product codes you have I would suggest moving up to the new Cerami Clear Menz pro range.

I can't remember the full numbers but the ones I now can't live without are FF85RD, 106FF (new version is 106FA) and IP3.01 (new version is 3.02).

Only possible word of caution, some have said that these don't work so well in high temps (direct sun) though personally I've not found this to be an issue yet .
 

UncleFester

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If you have a PC or Rotary then without knowing which product codes you have I would suggest moving up to the new Cerami Clear Menz pro range.

I can't remember the full numbers but the ones I now can't live without are FF85RD, 106FF (new version is 106FA) and IP3.01 (new version is 3.02).

Only possible word of caution, some have said that these don't work so well in high temps (direct sun) though personally I've not found this to be an issue yet .

They work beautifully in a cool garage, personally i prefer the 106FF ( not tried the FFa yet) as you can work it for a lot longer and it seems to leave ( in my eyes anyway) a much nicer finish.
 

Daffy

Detail Wizard
May 29, 2007
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They work beautifully in a cool garage, personally i prefer the 106FF ( not tried the FFa yet) as you can work it for a lot longer and it seems to leave ( in my eyes anyway) a much nicer finish.

Thats because it is a final stage polish to remove any micromarring. To do a whole car with VAG paintand ff would not work really. Ff has more oil and is and less abrassives which is why you can work it longer. The paint should be lsp ready when finished with ff. The ceramiclears IP equivalent more often than not leaves an lsp surface so avoids having to go over the car twice.
 

jonjay

50 Years of 911
Jun 27, 2005
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Thats because it is a final stage polish to remove any micromarring. To do a whole car with VAG paintand ff would not work really. Ff has more oil and is and less abrassives which is why you can work it longer. The paint should be lsp ready when finished with ff. The ceramiclears IP equivalent more often than not leaves an lsp surface so avoids having to go over the car twice.
You lost me :D

I sort of understood what your saying but the abbreviations....
 
Thats because it is a final stage polish to remove any micromarring. To do a whole car with VAG paintand ff would not work really. Ff has more oil and is and less abrassives which is why you can work it longer. The paint should be lsp ready when finished with ff. The ceramiclears IP equivalent more often than not leaves an lsp surface so avoids having to go over the car twice.

I'm sorry Daffy but I have done many cars just with 106ff on the rotary and got a perfect finish with full defect removal (at least those which can't be felt) I guess it really comes down to how you work a product, for me I have no problem, also people like Clark from Polished Bliss has posted many times on DW about doing full defect removal on VAG paints with 106ff.

Here is a 50:50 of the Ibiza I did yesterday, rotary, menz 106ff, white polishing pad and no more than speed 2 1/2 :happy:

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Daffy

Detail Wizard
May 29, 2007
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Ff = Menzerna Final Finish. Sits at the bottom of the abbrasive chart for Menz.

Power Gloss
Intensive Polish
Final Finish

The ceramiclear versions have numbers which I still can't remember.
 

Daffy

Detail Wizard
May 29, 2007
291
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Sorry should have added by PC as your average Joe Detailer will be using the PC.
 
The only Menzerna range that are Cerami Clear are and their numbers, cut and gloss ratings:

Intensive polish PO85RD 3.01 or 3.02 Cut 3.5 Gloss 3
Final Finish PO106FF or FA Cut 2.5 Gloss 5
Final Finish PO85RD Cut 1.5 Gloss 5+

Hope this helps, and yes Daffy many hobbiest only use a PC however my issue was the original blanket statement, but I'm glad you clarified it :)
 

Daffy

Detail Wizard
May 29, 2007
291
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Yes it was a bit misleading but I was assuming most people wouldn't be using a rotary.
Thanks for the code breaker. For some reason my brain just can't hold those details will cut and paste.
 
Jun 28, 2001
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your compound polishing yer??

if so are you advising people of how manytimes this can be done before going through to the base coat??
 

Daffy

Detail Wizard
May 29, 2007
291
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Can't and won't give an estimate as all cars are different. The only way to tell how much clear you have to work with is to use a ptg. It is far to risky to guess as you don't know anything about the car. Even new cars have had bumps repaired at the dealers that people are unaware of because they are fixed.
 
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