unless your car has an increased rev limiter or diff gearbox then your speedo is out a good bit mate, the box will not allow you to hit 60 in 2nd with a LCR 6sp box, true speed is about 58mph, sorry!
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unless your car has an increased rev limiter or diff gearbox then your speedo is out a good bit mate, the box will not allow you to hit 60 in 2nd with a LCR 6sp box, true speed is about 58mph, sorry!
Theres no way a LCR will get in the 5s for 0-60 just with a remap and the only way to properly test would be with a Gtech thingy as said before.
I did own a Revo'd LCR and there was no way you can get in the 5s.
I did own a Revo'd LCR and there was no way you can get in the 5s.
depends what the grips like.anyone tried that new tarmac they put down at traffic lights is well grippy can get low 6s on that!!just stop bout 10 yds fro the lights!!anywhere else bout 7
I would second that, assuming about 275ish BHP, my old 200SX S14a with 230odd BHP should have done about 6.2-6.3 secs at best and its lighter, rwd and would do 60 in second. I think a remapped Cupra R would be similar. Also as said, there would be a massive difference between a stopwatch timed 0-60 run and an actual 0-60 with timing gear - theres a reason why a proper Datron timing gear setup is so expensive (thousands).
Why do people insist on arguing about subjects that we as members have discussed IN DEPTH previously. For those who have been here a couple of months, i suggest you use the search function before arguing with guys that have been here 2-3yrs!
It has been proven. Forum member J@mes had measuring equipment set in his car for an official 0-60 run for a magazine feature. (May have been a traxx 0-60 event also)
Here, if you dont believe me, have a look here....
http://hpamotorsports.com/product_drivetrain_gears.htm
Actually says 56mph. So yep thats no where near 60
However i do think it is a little higher at around 58mph. I think J@mes managed 58.6mph or there abouts at end of 2nd with timing equipment! Defo weren't 60 thoughMaybe it will hit 60mph through momentum rolling down hill by hitting 2nd gear limiter, but to get a powered 60mph, you defo need 3rd hence why LCR has poor (ish) 0-60 time.
CTR is exactly the same, needs 3rd gear to get to its 6.4 0-60.
If it could be done in 2nd, we'd be looking at low 6sec 0-60 from manufacturer, not the 6.6 as quoted!!
Stage 2 LCR is defo capable of high 5's on quality tarmac! 280bhp can get an impreza mid 4's, so high 5's from a similar powered FWD car is more than capable on sticky tarmac!
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Is the link enough proof then, or are people still going to argue black is white
Thing is, if you've ever actually hit limiter in 2nd it feels sluggish, its dead and buried at 6500. Why wait to 7000rpm before changing up, its crawling by then and well out of the zone!
People need to learn how to drive
Thing is, if you've ever actually hit limiter in 2nd it feels sluggish, its dead and buried at 6500. Why wait to 7000rpm before changing up, its crawling by then and well out of the zone!
People need to learn how to drive
I think it *might* be possible to hit 60 in 2nd if you have full tread on your tyres and they are at the right pressure.
going on the following ratios you should be able to hit 61 in 2nd at 6500 revs
1st gear 3.42
2nd gear 2.11
3rd gear 1.48
4th gear 1.15
5th gear 1.17
6th gear 0.97
final drive, 1st to 4th 3.88, 5th and 6th is 3.1
going on the following ratios you should be able to hit 61 in 2nd at 6500 revs
1st gear 3.42
2nd gear 2.11
3rd gear 1.48
4th gear 1.15
5th gear 1.17
6th gear 0.97
final drive, 1st to 4th 3.88, 5th and 6th is 3.1
I got 5 seconds 0-60. I used my stopwatch, one handed, while trying to get the results and drive at the same time. But because my stopwatch said it's true, it must be true. Oh, I was using the speedo to watch it hit 60.
My car is semi-standard and not remapped by the way.
My car is semi-standard and not remapped by the way.
in the guys first post who started this thread, he stated that he didnt want a debate on how "un-accurate" speedo vs. stop watch is...he basically wanted to know the averages...plus if u did it with stop watches, say you did it 15 times...u could get an average from all the times, even it you did it only 5 times...i also understand that in 2nd gear your cant actually "power" to 60, but surely forward momentum will take you over in a few fractions of a second, if you can hit "58mph"
simple Q turned into a debate again..o man,
*rant over*
simple Q turned into a debate again..o man,
*rant over*
Why do people insist on arguing about subjects that we as members have discussed IN DEPTH previously. For those who have been here a couple of months, i suggest you use the search function before arguing with guys that have been here 2-3yrs!
It has been proven. Forum member J@mes had measuring equipment set in his car for an official 0-60 run for a magazine feature. (May have been a traxx 0-60 event also)
Here, if you dont believe me, have a look here....
http://hpamotorsports.com/product_drivetrain_gears.htm
Actually says 56mph. So yep thats no where near 60
Maybe it will hit 60mph through momentum rolling down hill by hitting 2nd gear limiter, but to get a powered 60mph, you defo need 3rd hence why LCR has poor (ish) 0-60 time.
CTR is exactly the same, needs 3rd gear to get to its 6.4 0-60.
If it could be done in 2nd, we'd be looking at low 6sec 0-60 from manufacturer, not the 6.6 as quoted!!
Stage 2 LCR is defo capable of high 5's on quality tarmac! 280bhp can get an impreza mid 4's, so high 5's from a similar powered FWD car is more than capable on sticky tarmac!
that kind of response was hardly called for, if you read what i wrote i wasnt arguing with the statement at all, i just wanted to see the evidence for myself! or should i accept everything that im told at face value because EVERYTHING im told is true????
If you want to know what your LCR does 0-60, get yourself down to GTI International at Brunters this weekend.. They've got a 0-60 @ 1/4mile shootout on there.. Be a lot more accurate than a bloody stop watch..
Rob
This thread was setup to totally dis-credit the 0-60 argument and to show people how different the times would be when trying to time it
now you've gone and spoiled everything
I disagree with the graph on that link, my car hits 56mph before 7000rpm in 2nd without a doubt..... so i dont really take that as viable evidence as its clearly not true, but then speedo lottery comes into it.
So the best way we can test this is if Mitchy goes through a speed camera at 60 mph, and we'll see what the ticket comes back with and work it out from there.
To be honest, i dont really care, we are possibly arguing over 1 MPH here!
If i stop accelerating at 59mph, then it aint going to be long before i hit 60mph, that was why this is all being discussed, so let that be the last we hear of it.
So to get back on topic, and just for a laugh, please post your highly inaccurate 0-60 times and we'll see just how much they differ
Then when someone new joins the forum and asks that question we can point them to this thread and that will be the last of it.
I wouldn't say there is NO WAY it can get in the 5's mate.. If a VXR can do 6.2 and MPS 6.0, I reckon they're could be a good chance it's possible..
I was going to be running mine tis weekend @ GTI Inters, but can't bloody get now..
Weather's meant to be shite though, so not the end of the world..Ever since mine has been running Conti Sports, I find the grip is awesome!!! Even though it's mapped.. hence the reason it's run a 2.1 60ft on the 1/4.. Never managed that in my CTR..
I'm pretty confident I could sneak a high 5's in mine, with a good **** on run..
for anyone interested the link below will work out speed per gear using ratios AND tyre sizes
http://www.f-body.org/gears/
http://www.f-body.org/gears/
is any one sad enough to set their cruise control on 60 reset the trip comp and drive for an hr???!!!!!surely if u go 60 miles it wont be the trip comp thats wrong???so the speedo must be right!?
any volunteers!?? (is this a going a bit far!!?)
any volunteers!?? (is this a going a bit far!!?)
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