LCR remap graphs!

[ICUJEDI]

As above says, has anyone got the graphs from after remapping there LCR! Been searching for ages but only found 1 from an LC?

Remaps on these cars are nuts?? From what i can see most of the Ph-1 maps from most company's are similar except the company's quote different figures! (and prices??) I.e p-torque is cheap and says a 40bhp increase which going by most peoples rolling road figures of around 250-260 is pretty spot on, but custom-code say 270-275 (is this on a standard car or modified??) with a nice smooth performance curve (same as p-torque say) then you have AmD, APR, Revo etc

When i had my evo it was simple, find a tuner and ECUTEC it! Or buy a new ecu and get it remapped! Done! ECUTEC just like most of the maps above is a generic map uploaded onto your cars existing ecu, power was more or less determined by what mods you had, and I'm not talking about a weedy panel filter or a cat-back exhaust, which to be honest ain't going to do much. You would need a system from down-pipe or turbo-elbo all the way through to get any real gain imo?

Plus why are remap prices so different? Must be a reason? But without graphs how can you tell? Has anyone ever done an in depth comparison on maps? Road tests etc?

Thing is you can't really go by what a customer say's, they are always going to say there's is the best as they will notice some sort of improvement over the standard car and think OMG! This is NUTS! Plus they have not driven all of them! Or am i wrong is there someone on here that has???

All i want is a replacement DV maybe a panel filter then map it, i don't want a crazy rush of power as i love how the car drives at the moment and just want a bit more progressive usable power and to maintain the efficiency of the engine (not when i boot it lol )

Hellllllllllpppppppp
Gav

 

[ArosaRacer]

mine from an Impossible Performance Remap

 

[Feel]

There's some on the SCN features pages:

http://www.seatcupra.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=83&Itemid=9
http://www.seatcupra.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=85&Itemid=9

Quite a few on the Awesome Gti website (although you might get put off when you have a look at these).

http://www.awesome-gti.co.uk/rollingroad.html

 

[lard44]

I know APR has one on their website - but I haven't put mine on the rollers since it's been mapped so those figures are bound to be at their most optimistic.

 

[ICUJEDI]

Thanks for that guys

Feel:- I see what you mean about the Awsome GTi figures! Saw your graph, looks good! How you finding your Revo? How well does it pull at top end? Whats the top speed you had out of her?

After studying them a bit, it looks like the maps are more or less identical? The Revo map does seem a little aggressive between 2-3.5k revs and the APR map looks like a carbon copy? Not seen a custom code map on an LCR but going by the Ibiza TDi on one of the links it is very smooth? Or is that just a TDi thing?

Going by what i've seen, it doesn't really matter what map you get as they are all carbon copys of each other with a minor tweak on initial boost setup?

I guess the garage most convenient to me with a decent rep and good price and service structure is going to get my dough

 

[Feel]

Mine was up and down at Awesome - I went there a few times and had boost leaks and all-sorts. It became a bit of a personal cursade to get a decent run there. Managed one or two. Also, Sarah made me a cup of coffee once and "Pearl's" around the corner does fantastic breakfast cobs, plus RR days are great fun

I've been in Revo'd, APR'd and CC'd LCRs, and I couldn't tell much of a difference between them. You can't really go wrong with a DECENT tuner, they will all get roughly the same results. If you were tuner B and you were tuning a car that you knew tuner A had already mapped, you'd make damn sure yours could do the same, as long as you were comfortable.

Personally, and I'll get kicked for saying this, I would highly recommend Revo and APR, but my jury is still out on CC. I'd spend my money there, but I'd be wary. I don't know anything about the others, apart from what I've read.

It's as much about backing/customer service as anything else. You could well have an issue that's not related to the map, and it's more than nice to have someone who will help resolve it. I'm always surprised when I ring Kev (not that customers should ring them direct, it's just "I'm special") that he knows all about everyone's car that's having issues - the dealers obviously ring them all the time.

Anyway. I found mine to be excellent. Pulled like a train. I liked the agressive kick the remapped LCR gives, felt like a real turbo'd car. If I wanted smooth, I would've got something else It's sold on now, just the other day :sniff:

Top speed? 70 mph, officer. Except it got there much faster when remapped

A remapped one is not going to have a higher top speed (apart from Scottyb's which will do 200mph, aparently). The speed is limited by the revs and the gearing. People have posted about hitting 160 in Germany, which I'm sure is possible as you need less room to do it in a remapped car.

Go and get the trial done, but make sure you can afford the full version, because you'll quickly find that you NEED a remap

 

[ibizacupra]

graphs from different dyno's makes it next to meaningless if trying to judge which you want to go for.

2 vendors offer trial versions FOC, and then there's the forums for actual owners, not sellers, telling it how it is, sales, after sales, service.......... as well as the actual performance and power delivery

enjoy

 

[mattpark]

 

[speedsix]

I'd be interested to see what my LCR makes, mods in sig, currently running boost 7, timing 7. Might take it along to one, any recommendation somerset area, near weston-super-mare?

 

[RobM]

mattpark - what the heck was wrong with your car that made if deliver the power like that?

Not just the shape and massive dips and peaks in the power delivery... but the fact that the three runs were so incredibly different, despite making similar peak power.

 

[RSTuning]

Looks like maybe strapping was an issue although i have seen some other cars on awesome's rollers and the graphs are similar. Maybe just how the dynojet is

 

[RobM]

They have big problems then. No rolling road I've ever been on, in any car I've owned, has given a graph like that. Not only once, but three times. Even Regal were better than that.... and their RR claimed my Celica revved to 10k rpm and produced 86lbs/ft torque

 

[RSTuning]

Have a look at a few. The graphs are smaller but you can imagine them when they are blown up a bit!
http://www.awesome-gti.co.uk/rollingroad.html

 

[ICUJEDI]

mattpark - what the heck was wrong with your car that made if deliver the power like that?

Not just the shape and massive dips and peaks in the power delivery... but the fact that the three runs were so incredibly different, despite making similar peak power.

Seen that before, if memory serves me right its when the car looses traction on the dyno spinning its wheels. Sitting on the back of my mates RX7(rwd) seemed to solve it!

 

[RobM]

The car should have been strapped down properly to stop that. And after seeing Stu's 360bhp LCR on the rollers at Janspeed, along with other high powered FWD cars, I can once again say something is wrong with that setup if they cannot pin down a remapped LCR. Or, something is wrong with the car that made it produce it's power in that way.

 

[RSTuning]

^^ Yes totally agree

Did the dyno operator comment on the graph at all? Did you get any AFR data?

Paul

 

[Feel]

They're usually a bit "noisy" at Awesome's rollers, quite often a bit "lumpy". Probably because they take an ignition signal to calculate revs.

They strap them on well, it's not that. It's just how the(ir) dynojet is

 

[RSTuning]

Ah the ignition signal explaines it. I try not to use it on our DD as it can be a pain! But then again so can roller tacho!

Paul

 

[ibizacupra]

they're not all bouncy

 

[RSTuning]

I think it's just more noise from the ignition signal. The car would drive like a bag of spanners if it made power like that!