shortened rear shocks?

[ibizaneal]

hey folks,

as the title suggests, does anyone know where i can get a set of shortened rear shocks for my 1.2? iv tried the search function but had no joy

cheers neal

 

[Nath.]

when you say shortened shocks do you mean shortened dampers to fit lowered springs or are you after a complete setup for the rear only.

I say this because lots of people find the rear too high and the front ok

 

[ibizaneal]

sorry, i mean just the dampers, iv got the v-maxx coilover kit but the dampers are the same stroke as the originals and the rear doent sit low enough for me, as you've pointed out.

 

[ibizaneal]

in case anyones ever wondering this i got a set of rear shortened rear dampers from www.venommotorsport.com, had to phone them for the Mk4 ibiza though.

 

[Ric 2001]

So V-maxx coilovers don't come with shorter rear damper. Would if this is why they are cheaper than their counter parts eg, FK, KW etc....

My coilover kit come with shorter dampers for both front and rear.

 

[ibizaneal]

i think your probably right, i only bought them because i took my car in for some warrenty work and they phoned me up and told me the rear springs were dangerous as when they took the weight off the back end the springs fell out of their seats! i got the rear dampers for £30+VAT

 

[mixupz]

ive got the V-maxx coilover kit....but didnt know that the rear dampers are the same as the original ones on the mk4 ibiza....

just when i thought i understood coilovers....

 

[ibizaneal]

i thought they'd have been shorter but apparently not, according to the place that is doing warrenty work on my motor they're dangerous, because if you ever jump a bridge (as if we'd do that) or something like that then the the spring could fall out of its cup and cause you to crash! i dont know if this is true at all though, maybe some one could confirm this??

 

[rashcupra]

i removed the adjuster completly out the back the shocksarent whats making your car too high its the adjuster cup that sits under your spring

and as for the gargage saying your springs "fell out" this is normal if you have lowered springs as they are shorter they just sit between the axle and the chassis unless rusted through or snapped or twisted the spring never needs to be replaced! (unless standard1's fell out

anyway they done you a favour making you buy coilovers heres my rear end without adjusters

does look so much better, but if you like country roads like me then iadvise youmodify the adjusters as the springs COULD jump out if you went over a big bump fast enough

 

[Ric 2001]

So Rash you've take out the purple thing (adjuster cup) within the above picture, so the spring just sits with in the cupped bit and on the flat washer

 

[rashcupra]

yep its gone! just sits in axle seat. like standard setup does. nice tosee some1 else has painted their jabba rear arb

 

[Ric 2001]

Yep, a full £5 well spent.

 

[DEAN0]

i thought they'd have been shorter but apparently not, according to the place that is doing warrenty work on my motor they're dangerous, because if you ever jump a bridge (as if we'd do that) or something like that then the the spring could fall out of its cup and cause you to crash! i dont know if this is true at all though, maybe some one could confirm this??

If the springs can fall out when the car is jacked up for its MOT inspection then it will fail it's MOT.

Springs must be secure at ANY point in the suspension travel.

The only way to cure this correctly is to use shorter shocks so that the springs stay located at full travel or progressive springs that are longer to start with but close quickly to get the correct ride height.

 

[mixupz]

So if i understand correctly then, (which i never do ) i have a set of v-maxx coilovers, in oder for my car to be MOT worthy i need to get shorter shocks than the ones already provided or else the shorter spring will come out of the spring cup??? even if i havent taken out that adjustable cup (purple thing ) as shown in the above pic

 

[DEAN0]

i have a set of v-maxx coilovers, in oder for my car to be MOT worthy i need to get shorter shocks than the ones already provided or else the shorter spring will come out of the spring cup??? even if i havent taken out that adjustable cup (purple thing ) as shown in the above pic

YES - you are understanding it correctly.

Check with an MOT station if it helps.

The springs must NOT be able to fall out at ANY point in the suspension travel.
They can become loose ( a couple of mm ) as long as it is not possible for them to dislocate from the spring cups.

I had nightmares trying to get my Nova GTE through it's MOT with lowered springs on the back. I ended up buying a cheap pair of shocks from another car with the same fitting but shorter just for the MOT.

 

[mixupz]

the V-maxx dampers i got supplied in the kit are surely different to the standard ones ont the ibiza?? surely v-mxx must have taken the spring movement into consideration. i wont be taking the adjuster cup out, i will just be leaving everything as its supposed to be.....

i cant believe that i need to get shorter shocks aswell!

 

[Ric 2001]

the V-maxx dampers i got supplied in the kit are surely different to the standard ones ont the ibiza?? surely v-mxx must have taken the spring movement into consideration. i wont be taking the adjuster cup out, i will just be leaving everything as its supposed to be.....

i cant believe that i need to get shorter shocks aswell!

Take you adjuster cup out and leave the spring in the axle seat. Then jack the car up..... If your spring falls out, then it's a MOT failure, therefore you'll require shorter dampers to compress the spring into the axle seat abit more so when you jack the car up it doesn't fall out.

 

[rashcupra]

im not getting shorter shocks and i passed my mot at a vw garage with coilovers as they are without adjusters

 

[mixupz]

thanks guys but the thing i just want to confirm, i think people are thinking im talking about the spring falling out with the adjuster cup taken out....im talking about having the cup in and then jacking the car up...will the spring fall out then...on a v-maxx kit.

 

[rashcupra]

they defo wont with adjuster in as the adjuster is quite tall but without adjuster definatly do
YOU DONT NEED SHORTER SHOCKS