the whole door card, then you need to drill out the rivets holding the original speakers in place. Depending on the mounting depth of your new speakers, you may have to make MDF baffles to mount them on so they don't foul on the window, or you can buy plastic adapters. (get ones for VW Lupo if going this route, they fit best as they don't make any for ibiza Mk4) MDF is definitely the better option if you can do it.
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