I'm hoping your EGT's were properly measured at the head before turbo, so that you don't melt anything? 
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Getting new map put on car
- Thread starter WeeG
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On there rollers my CC JBS map made....... 188.2 bhp and 414nm of torque. They then put a standard map on my car with my miltek exhaust and panel filter which made 167 bhp and 374nm.
They rolling roaded my car over a dozen times trying to get the map as aggresive as possible without the stuttering hwich it was doing a lot of on the rollers!
In the end the car managed to make on one of the last runs 217bhp and just under 500 nm of torque which equates to 370 lbs ft of torque. Mikko and Ben both said if the car was cooler and hadn't been run on the rollers so many times they believe it could of made over a proper 225.
That JBS map was the WILD map and only made 188 bhp on there rollers....
As i said there rollers musta been spot on if not under reading as the car with a standard map dpf delete full miltek and panel filter made 167. The leon FR;s standard torque is 350nm and it made 374 so the torque may have been increased with these mods. Mikko told me he reckons if you put it on other Dynos Dyno Dynamics, Dastek etc you will see some big readings. The car itself is rapid! I can't stop driving it!
So when you look at it like that when JBS stated my car and dynoed it at 240.6bhp and it made 188 bhp. And then after making 216 with it heat soaking to hell that is a big jump and going from 414nm to just under 500 on my best run is a lot as well!
Max Bhp is made all the way up to 4666 rpm.....
They rolling roaded my car over a dozen times trying to get the map as aggresive as possible without the stuttering hwich it was doing a lot of on the rollers!
In the end the car managed to make on one of the last runs 217bhp and just under 500 nm of torque which equates to 370 lbs ft of torque. Mikko and Ben both said if the car was cooler and hadn't been run on the rollers so many times they believe it could of made over a proper 225.
That JBS map was the WILD map and only made 188 bhp on there rollers....
As i said there rollers musta been spot on if not under reading as the car with a standard map dpf delete full miltek and panel filter made 167. The leon FR;s standard torque is 350nm and it made 374 so the torque may have been increased with these mods. Mikko told me he reckons if you put it on other Dynos Dyno Dynamics, Dastek etc you will see some big readings. The car itself is rapid! I can't stop driving it!
So when you look at it like that when JBS stated my car and dynoed it at 240.6bhp and it made 188 bhp. And then after making 216 with it heat soaking to hell that is a big jump and going from 414nm to just under 500 on my best run is a lot as well!
Max Bhp is made all the way up to 4666 rpm.....
i agree it does smoke a lot
but wen ur in serch of more power to the extent biggaddicted was then smoke is the only option
he just wanted the absolout max from his standard parts
after a certain amount of fueling duration u allmost hit a wall so it takes a lot of fuel to keep incresing the power just by a small amount
but i think its safe to say he probably has the most powerfull semi standard pd170
i did run my pd170 and made good power and torque with my old 5ark map
also i would liek to add people saying smoke is a bad map dont rly no wat ther talking about wat tdi that makes big power dosent smoke ?
but wen ur in serch of more power to the extent biggaddicted was then smoke is the only option
he just wanted the absolout max from his standard parts
after a certain amount of fueling duration u allmost hit a wall so it takes a lot of fuel to keep incresing the power just by a small amount
but i think its safe to say he probably has the most powerfull semi standard pd170
i did run my pd170 and made good power and torque with my old 5ark map
also i would liek to add people saying smoke is a bad map dont rly no wat ther talking about wat tdi that makes big power dosent smoke ?
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Any thats mapped properly? I know of plenty of big power TDis that dont smoke.
IMO its all down to the preference of the owner. I'm not going to knock Bigg for having a smokey map. If its what he wants, then fair play to him for getting it.
For me, gaining an extra 5hp, and not being able to see out of the window wasn;t high on my list of priorities. But for someone trying to push the limits of their equipment, then a bit of smoke is something they might choose to live with. Although it sounds to me like hes got more than just a bit of smoke.
Wow. I don;t care what power it makes then. I'm just impressed anyone can drive a car with that much smoke
Can I ask what mods your running BiGG? The reason I ask is my 140PD with a hybrid turbo, 3" s/s turbo back, EGR complete delete made 218BHP and nearly 350lbs of torque and mines doesn't smoke really at all.
hes ruuning standard just has the milltek dpf delete and pannel filter
btw wat boost are you running with that hybrid ?
max we can go on stock is aroudn the 25psi mark after that thers a risk of a blown turbo if we could get more boost ther would be less smoke
Hey mate, I'm not sure iv just sent my mapper a text and will let you know when he gets back to me but sure it's around 1.8 bar. Turbo technics said with a clutch fitted it could run 2bar but the clutch will be a while off....hopefully
Sachsen uprated clutch, full 3" miltek system with miltek dpf delete downpipe, KnN panel filter and Maxed out ***** map.
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i agree it does smoke a lot
but wen ur in serch of more power to the extent biggaddicted was then smoke is the only option
he just wanted the absolout max from his standard parts
after a certain amount of fueling duration u allmost hit a wall so it takes a lot of fuel to keep incresing the power just by a small amount
but i think its safe to say he probably has the most powerfull semi standard pd170
i did run my pd170 and made good power and torque with my old 5ark map
also i would liek to add people saying smoke is a bad map dont rly no wat ther talking about wat tdi that makes big power dosent smoke ?
I know plenty about modifying a TDI thank you, I had two and also helped a mate modify his hybrid Leon. There loads of big power TDI's. And excessive load of smoke is just a pirate way to mapping a diesel. A bit of smoke is acceptable, not loads of it where you can't see out of the back window. But aslong as BIGG is happy with it is all that matters
smoke is aceptable aslong as its incresing power
like i said be4 he can probably loose some smoke and loose a minimal amount of power
lots of high bhp tdi cars they all smoke like mad wen creating ther max bhp then the mapper will bring it back a couple of notches to keep as much power and torque as possible with as little smoke as possible
but if u dont care how much smoke u make and u want every last 0.1bhp then your goin to hav smoke no mater who tunes the car
MAXIMUM is maximum = smoke
then ther is the
minimum smoke maximum = clean map
the main resson people say smokey isent a good map is due to the increse of turbo failiure and also EGT temps and half of the smokey maps are made without testing and they just raise the fuel and thats it
biggs car was done on a dyno and was consitantly making good pwer with every adjustment untill it got to the stage were to much was to much and need backing off a tad so it was at its max
i duno wat im talking about its just my opinion
suppose u can allways run a clean map and run your tyres at 20psi and hav it on the dyno to gain a fake 10bhp
tranny loss ftwsuppose u can allways run a clean map and run your tyres at 20psi and hav it on the dyno to gain a fake 10bhp
Thought you were meant to up the tyre pressures if you want to fake RR figures not reduce them?
wrong
if you put more pressure u will lower ur maximum figures
not goin to explain why
wrong
if you put more pressure u will lower ur maximum figures
not goin to explain why
You sure? I thought the lower the pressure the more resistance hence lower figures?
And every other website I have read about this too seem to say increase your tyre pressures if you want slightly higher figures.
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