Queen's Cupra - My build thread

lucifer666

Active Member
Dec 17, 2006
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awesome, glad you hit 300bhp but i knew you would have trouble with the misfires. Can you give me the part number for the supertec valve springs because nobody in the uk knows anything about these. TSR managed to get stiffer ones off another vw variant but not sure how much stiffer they are.
Have you got a link to the required valve spring?
 

queen

~Nassia~
Nov 29, 2010
726
86
Athens, Greece
My car will be in the garage for the valve springs change this week.
We couldn't find any springs from supertech that fitted.
We'll be fitting those from the newer scirocco or polo, part number: 036109623AC
The should be green and a lot stiffer than the stock, I'll know for sure on Monday.
In case you want to check for yourself you can get one of yours (stock part number 036109623R) and one 036109623AC, they're less than 10 euros each.
 

queen

~Nassia~
Nov 29, 2010
726
86
Athens, Greece
The stiffer valve springs have part number: 036109623AC
They are RED color coded and they're A LOT stiffer than the stock, so much that even I could tell the difference and I have 0 experience in these things.
 

queen

~Nassia~
Nov 29, 2010
726
86
Athens, Greece
It can be done in less than 24 hours, provided that the shop has the necessary staff.
At the shop where I have my car only the owner works there so it's gonna take him 4 days.
 

queen

~Nassia~
Nov 29, 2010
726
86
Athens, Greece
It's been a while since my last update and as the project will be complete in a few days I decided to sum up all the mods and all the problems I had to face because hitting 300+bhp isn't a walk in the park.

Let me remind you that my last update was about the misfires I was having especially in cold weather and on high boost, so my tuner had written a really light file where I could go easily to 150kmh but then my dashboard was lighting up like a Xmas tree.

So since I had become best buds with the check engine light and we had figured out that the misfires were caused by the weak exhaust valve springs I decided to change them. Since we couldn't find any springs from Supertech we went for the uprated stiffer oem valve springs that all the latest '12 and on 1.4 tsi's have, ETKA code 036109623AC (in case anyone wants to change them), which are color coded in red and not green as I'd read in another forum. They're much stiffer than what I had, so much that you can feel it in your hands.
The project was carried out by Derekidis Service, where he used a special tool that compresses the cylinder so that the valves won't drop inside (sorry I can't describe it any better). It took him 4 days as he works alone. Total cost including labor and an oil change less than 500 euros.

Some pics from the whole valve springs process (I'll post some with the tool later):

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So the misfires are gone but when we were logging the car on the 10th run it started to whistle/whine like it had a vacuum leak, after 4000rpm, and it wasn't holding boost. Back to the shop, the mechanic inspected all the hoses for leaks but they were ok, so we checked the turbo too and it had some shaft play, unusual for the little time that I had it. So the turbo was sent to the turbo specialist for a check and service.

Here is when things started to get an interesting twist as the turbo specialist told us that the hybrid was partial, only the compressor wheel was k04-23 but the rest was stock!
When I decided to go hybrid several months ago I did the job through another shop that sent the turbo to the specialist and made all the arrangements for me. I just told them what I wanted (full hybrid wheels, shaft, thrust, porting) and we agreed on everything including the cost. But they tricked me and told the specialist to change only the compressor wheel but they charged me for the whole hybrid! Apart from the cost what they did was dangerous too because I told my current tuner that I have a full hybrid and he wrote the tune (it's custom) according to the upgrades that I thought I had, so who knows what could have happened in time and on high boost (maybe the shaft play was a first sign?). So right now I have a full hybrid turbo and I'll post some pics later where you can see the huge difference in the turbine wheel.

But the damn thing wouldn't stop whining! So we decided to change the cooler with a bigger, wider, thicker one from China (by the way here everyone goes for a made in China universal cooler that are pretty good for the money). It's almost 11 liters rated for 350bhp and in several runs going in 4th and 5th to the redline with 30°C ambient, we logged 37°C tops. With my previous custom cooler we had logged 35°C with 15°C ambient. After it was fitted we went for a run and the whine was gone (something must have hit the old cooler and made a hole in it) BUT this time the wategate's membrane went bad and I was hitting 2bars boost lol. I'm taking the wastegate for a service next week and provided that everything else goes well we will tune it one final time in 2 weeks. Right now I have a stock wastegate on and the car holds 0.8 bar boost throughout the rev range.

Cooler pics:

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VS the old one:

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I hope that in my next update I'll have a dyno.
 
Aug 31, 2013
660
1
Washington Tyne&Wear
have you forged this engine??

sorry just havent read threw it all lol...

300hp on the stock engine isnt that going to go bang tbh I just read lots about these engine not been able to hold that sort of power but...?????

awesome build mate

also what wheel studs are you using for them alloys as my new alloys want some new ones??

m14x1.5?? what type of head?
 
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queen

~Nassia~
Nov 29, 2010
726
86
Athens, Greece
Thanks!
No it isn't forged. From what I've read our parts are good for up to 350hp.
Studs? You mean bolts? They came with the wheels, team dynamics pro race 1.2. I just got 4 locking bolts just to be safe. Do you want me to measure them?
 

Sparkly

Mean and Green
Sep 18, 2013
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Brilliant thread.

I am nearly finished with Chassis mods on my 1.4tsi (180) Mk2 Skoda Fabia and the next challenge will be to chase some power. Maybe not 300bhp+ because I think the cost would be prohibitive but 250bhp is the goal. Currently my only engine mods are an ITG/VWR intake, Vibratechnics lower engine mount and an APR Stage 1 Remap which ran 213bhp on Awesome GTI's Dynojet rollers. So I am searching for another 37bhp approx which I hope I can find with a custom exhaust, new IC, Stage 2 remap and perhaps a couple of other little bits and pieces. This is potentially optimistic on this hardware alone.

It really looks like Greece is ahead of the game with tuning these engines, really enjoyed some of the links on the VAGOC too on this engine hitting 400bhp+.
 
Aug 31, 2013
660
1
Washington Tyne&Wear
Thanks!
No it isn't forged. From what I've read our parts are good for up to 350hp.
Studs? You mean bolts? They came with the wheels, team dynamics pro race 1.2. I just got 4 locking bolts just to be safe. Do you want me to measure them?

defently a inspiration for my build :)

yes that would be awesome if you could :)
 

Sparkly

Mean and Green
Sep 18, 2013
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0
Hey Queen,

Would you be able to post details of where your new Universal Intercooler came from?

Ideally with a linky so I can buy it?
 

queen

~Nassia~
Nov 29, 2010
726
86
Athens, Greece
The temps I mentioned in my other post are wrong, with 33.5°C ambient (not 30), we logged 37°C.
Soon I'll be fitting another goodie for some more cooling.

Brilliant thread. Awesome car

Thanks!

Hey Queen,

Would you be able to post details of where your new Universal Intercooler came from?

Ideally with a linky so I can buy it?

Hi,
I bought it from a shop here, they don't have a website or ship.
I can give you the dimensions so you can get it maybe from ebay, core size 21 inches length (full length up to the pipes 25), 11 inches height, 2.6 inches width.
The pipes are 2.36 inches because that's the size of the throttle body, you don't need to go any bigger.
Hope it helps.
 
Sep 2, 2010
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Leeds
Hows the progress coming along Nassia?

Just fitted my universal intercooler today, makes a good difference at high revs! So thanks for the info on that.

Is there anyway we can get the DTM Homologe intake kit you have? I had a quick look on ebay but with no success, is that kit only offered in Greece?
 

queen

~Nassia~
Nov 29, 2010
726
86
Athens, Greece
Back with good news after a long time! :funk:
Car is now tuned and I love it.
I did change my tuner though and went with e-tuners.

The reason is that after overload's numerous attempts and crazy money on gas, my car was still suffering from misfires. Lots of fuel trims, flooded cylinders, bad gas mileage and I even had misfires in 2nd gear. They kept telling me that my car had some kind of problem (broken downpipe, blown lambda sensor etc.) and it couldn't be their tune. So they suggested to leave the car with them one more time so the mechanic would try to figure out what's wrong.

Because the car worked without any issues with the stock tune, I decided to try another tuner, specifically e-tuners so that if my car really had a problem it would show with their tune. Well, guess what, the car worked just fine from the very first pull. 0 cf, 13 degrees timing. Same boost numbers: 1.65 spike, 1.5-1.6 hold, 1.38 redline and with 50°C intake temp as it was very hot today, it dyno'd 270bhp with very fat curves on dyno dynamics rollers, which is considered very strict with the numbers. So I owe you a maha dyno so that we can see before/after gains (revo).

In the mean time the whole thing got delayed as I had to replace both the mechatronic and the clutches cause my DSG went bang. That's why I didn't get a DSG tune again, and because of that the DSG now cuts power due to torque when changing into 5th and sometimes into 4th gear, the throttle body momentarily closes and boost drops to 1 bar (and I lose half a car every time this happens against another DSG). When that happens it works like a manual transmission with OK shifts. When I had a DSG tune I didn't have any cuts but maybe this contributed to the wearing of the clutches and I don't want to risk that.

For all the above I don't blame overload even though I'm trying to get my car tuned from February but it sucks that they convinced me for example to change the valve springs because they told me that that's what's causing the misfires. Unfortunately that tune didn't work on my car, maybe because of my ECU/DSG version. As soon as it gets cold I'll install water/meth to increase timing and a boost controller so that I can finally see 300+ bhp (on a maha).


Today's dyno on dyno dynamics:

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and a race against my boyfriend's gti edition 30 DSG, stage 1 revo + intake:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ey-8UJlywoU
 
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