Dealer vs Home Servicing

[stu_m]

I already have VCDS and to be honest when it comes to a service all it would be used for is to reset the service light

I'm sure there would be someone local to you with VCDS willing to reset it when you service the car for a few pennies

 

[Mr Pig]

I'm sure there would be someone local to you with VCDS willing to reset it when you service the car for a few pennies

Yes there is, but they charge £35 a time. That's gona get old pretty quickly.

 

[Fmxvxx]

I made a mistake, the guy at work has a Citroen, not a Peugeot. Same thing really.

I think I'll service the Leon myself if I can be confident that I have all the correct service items and schedule. Right now I have no clue what the heck it needs! Would also like a ODB tool that lets me reset the service light.

When I had the Primera GT I had a laptop and software that gave you total access to the ECU. It was amazing what you could do, although thinking about it a lot less than you can do today ;0)

For the mk3 the service light can be done on the dash with no tools the inspection light will need Odis/vcds or similar

Tools very basic for the service not sure on your engine but

Sump 19mm across all engines

under tray t25 (some engines have 3 t45's at the back)

32mm oil filter tool (1.8 and cupra use 24mm) 1.2tsi use 77m oil filter socket believe 15 sides

air filter t25

Fuel filters (diesel non exeo) T20

Major service on a 2.0 184 or 1.8 tsi can be done in less than 15 mins from driving car in to getting it out - paper work filling out health checks etc

 

[RUM4MO]

I can't see a dealer stamping the book if they haven't done the service.

Typically what I did was the basic service and brake stuff, any repairs I thought I could manage and get a dealer to do the stuff I didn't fancy or thought I couldn't do. For example, on the Mazda I had a cracked coolant manifold that was going to be a pain to replace so I got a dealer to do it. Turned out to be a good call as they had problems and it took much longer than expected.

I completely agree with you there wrt getting the dealer to just kick the tyres and ask for £50 for stamping the service book - though maybe it would be worth it if they did supply that "service" - every pound counts in these austere times!

 

[RUM4MO]

Yip, that's what I always do. The buyer gets handed a big folder of receipts etc. I even have the original sales brochures for the Leon.[/QUOTE

I currently have 3 folder packs that are growing very quickly, my previous car, I just handed a resume of everything that had been done to that car over its 13 years, from new - the new owner, a friend was not interested in the huge folder of "very interesting stuff" including initial quote to buy from a broker in Holland, all tickets and costs associated with collecting it, VAT reg'ng forms etc! My wife's previous car, an imported Polo, was traded in 13 year as well, I slipped a full record of everything that had been done to that car under the spare wheel, so hopefully someone made use of it.

 

[Pinky]

I can't see a dealer stamping the book if they haven't done the service.

Try them. Why wouldn't they ? Why wouldn't they carry out xyz service minus xyz items as requested by customer? They'll do extra work in addition to the service schedule if you ask and add it to the invoice.

Or maybe its only Subaru dealers that listen to their customers and do what they are told.

 

[Pinky]

Well, the level of complexity of the electronic systems and the way VW/SEAT have tied the car up to their computers for one. There are more bits on the car that you have little hope of fixing in the drive and keeping up a good relationship with the dealer might pay of if you need help in the future.

Also, I don't know exactly what needs done on the car. Years ago they put a list of the service items in the handbook. Not so today, and with cars getting evermore complex I'm worried I miss something.

This is why I suggested what I did.

 

[stu_m]

Yes there is, but they charge £35 a time. That's gona get old pretty quickly.

You are not looking hard enough

do you do facebook? if so look on here https://www.facebook.com/groups/vcdsusersuk/ or here http://www.vcdsusers.uk/ for a map of VCDS users

 

[Fmxvxx]

Dealer wont stamp the book unless you service it at there garage not worth there time to do partial services and misleads future buyers that it has a full main dealer history.

Dealers charge £35 a time because ODIS costs them 7.5k to run a year.

VCDS or DS150E should be able to do inspection light at home VCDS does more for VW side the DS150E is a good all round diagnostic tool.

 

[Mr Pig]

Dealer won't stamp the book unless you service it at there garage. Not worth their time to do partial services and misleads future buyers that it has a full main dealer history.

No reputable garage would do that. By stamping their name in the book they are taking responsibility for the work. There is no way they would stamp their name to work the car's owner did at home. Not a chance.

 

[Fmxvxx]

No reputable garage would do that. By stamping their name in the book they are taking responsibility for the work. There is no way they would stamp their name to work the car's owner did at home. Not a chance.

Isn't that what I just said?

 

[Mr Pig]

Isn't that what I just said?

Yes, I'm agreeing with you.

 

[Fmxvxx]

Yes, I'm agreeing with you.

Haha Not often people do had me confused


On the original topic Main dealer service is not particularly inclusive of major checks that somebody at home could not do themselves with reasonable mechanical knowledge.

Don't have any copies of the sheets as they are printed out specifically for each vehicle from Elsa pro

If you want some more detailed information on servicing I can answer and specific questions been a little while since I've serviced the mk3's but have done a few hundred or so.

 

[Deleted member 103408]

Haha Not often people do had me confused


On the original topic Main dealer service is not particularly inclusive of major checks that somebody at home could not do themselves with reasonable mechanical knowledge.

Don't have any copies of the sheets as they are printed out specifically for each vehicle from Elsa pro

If you want some more detailed information on servicing I can answer and specific questions been a little while since I've serviced the mk3's but have done a few hundred or so.

Thanks for bringing us back on topic. As we can get access to erwin is it possible to get them ourselves

 

[Seastormer]

The only reasons I can see to keep going to a main dealer (if one of the rare good ones) for servicing is to get the free breakdown cover and for future goodwill cover in event of a costly out of warranty failure.

 

[Mr Pig]

The only reasons I can see to keep going to a main dealer (if one of the rare good ones) for servicing is to get the free breakdown cover and for future goodwill cover in event of a costly out of warranty failure.

Well, I can't get things fixed while the car is still under warranty so feck them! If they'd looked after me a bit better I might be more inclined but I'm pissed off with them right now.

 

[Seastormer]

Well, I can't get things fixed while the car is still under warranty so feck them! If they'd looked after me a bit better I might be more inclined but I'm pissed off with them right now.

Your dealer sounds like the typical SEAT dealer that has given the brand it's bad name, I agree and would not give them my business. I have never used any of the Edinburgh dealers for the same reason and have been lucky to have had family owned and run SEAT dealerships that actually treat you like a valued customer for all my SEAT cars ownership. Why SEAT don't sort out these duff dealers as it is not conclusive to growing the brand, I will never know.

 

[Aardvark]

My local VAG dealer has offered me a couple of ways of doing this ( my car is getting it's year 3 service and a final warranty check next week)

1. Continue to use the VAG dealer and pay for a yearly interim service if you have low mileage and only stump up for the full service every 3rd or 4th year

2. My dealer offers a parts club service at 99 quid which is an inspection and fault code check and oil with filter using suitable oil but not the expensive long life stuff.

My plan will be to probably change the oil and filter myself but buy it from the dealer at parts club prices and pay them to do MOT.

 

[CRNeo]

I got all my service items from sere on here and got vag specialists to fit. So got all the proper OEM spec parts and long life oil fitted by someone I trust.

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[gaffer1986]

I'm thinking of servicing my car now it's out of warranty, I service and do a lot of work to my hobby car and I can see myself keeping this thing until 180,000 miles or something. Currently on 92,000 miles and still love it.

Does anyone know how to reset the service schedule computer? I have an OBD2 dongle and torque app.