Updating the inbuilt Mib3 Satnav Offline

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Well I never!
Uninstalled 7-Zip and reinstalled latest version. Downloaded nav file again and still no luck.
Tried it on a friend's Windoze 10 PC with same result!
Thought I'd give it a go on my Mac so downloaded the relevant programs and lo and behold it worked perfectly.
So looks like the pesky Windoze laptop can be confined to the bin as I don't use it for anything else.
Anyway, thanks for your help and assistance.
Think it's the pesky internal zip program Skoda use, if you aren't using the latest 7zip to unzip or the Windows internal program with the right click then it doesn't unzip correctly.

BTW

There is life in the old Windows 10 64 bit machines that aren't compliant with Windows 11 by installing Window 11 24h2 with the server command prompt. Older harder with non fancy drivers seem to cope well with the workaround. Got two 13 year old tower units happily on Windows 11 24h2. Newer compliant hardware does have some issue on the 24h2 update... still 25h2 to look forward to 😉. Because Microsoft re wrote Windows and imposed more strict driver requirements it became more problematic to update. Once on 24h2 moving to 25h2 should be easy since it's an incremental update.

Have a thread on that.


Still the good news is you have installed 25.06 map.
 
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My laptop is 64 bit with an SSD. Might give it a stay of ececution, though!
I put SSDs in these two old tower units and fully populated the memory. The other laptops are 2 in 1 HP fully compliant with Windows 11 so didn't need any tricks to get Windows 11 on them. The original were Windows 7, to 10, to 11. 12 ?... we'll see.
 

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Hi all,

I also managed to install the latest DB update on my car, despite the Head Error in 7zip tool.
I just extracted the archive on a 64G USB stick and after my last trip (>2h) the version was changed to 25.6.

Good luck everyone
 
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Probably the curse of the Skoda zip software. They do have a reputation for messing it up their end - may be it's not important. Checks are made to ensure that any old garbage files don't get introduced into the unit, so whatever it's moaning about doesn't effect the integrity of the import.

Certainly it unzipped fine for me without moaning. No errors.
 
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Is there a way to know when update is "really" finished?
I noticed 25.6 in settings after 20 minutes already.
Activity/blinking on flash drive lasted for about 2 more hours and MIB was lagging a bit as well for that time, so the update was not completed in just 20 minutes I guess
 

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Is there a way to know when update is "really" finished?
I noticed 25.6 in settings after 20 minutes already.
Activity/blinking on flash drive lasted for about 2 more hours and MIB was lagging a bit as well for that time, so the update was not completed in just 20 minutes I guess
It does update the map in segments of Europe. It's designed to do that for those using connect services. As you strike a route across Europe it updates the element of the map it needs. For connect service people you put a destination in across Europe and it will pull down the parts it needs to update.

My guess with the offline update the 25.6 probably means it's done the part you are in. Ive forgotten the numbers of parts but I determined it from the file. You can't mess with these file.

So I reckon if you got a led based USB just leave it in till the light stops flashing. The instructions are vague. It will be multitasking why you'd get a lag.
 
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Your explanation makes total sense.
Yeah, just leave it a few days, why not.
Wouldn't be surprised if even their engineering guys couldn't read the progress somewhere, it's a little blackbox after all 😆

I was just mentioning the lag because LED + slow system made me be confident, it is still not completely finished

In reality I don't need whole EU to be up to date, but knowing EVERYTHING is completed is just fulfilling 😂
 
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Your explanation makes total sense.
Yeah, just leave it a few days, why not.
Wouldn't be surprised if even their engineering guys couldn't read the progress somewhere, it's a little blackbox after all 😆

I was just mentioning the lag because LED + slow system made me be confident, it is still not completely finished

In reality I don't need whole EU to be up to date, but knowing EVERYTHING is completed is just fulfilling 😂
This time round with Mib3 VAG have been carefull to lock down the developers menu so you can't see what's going on. Mib2 high I do my map updates through the developers menu so you see the file progress. Clamping down on end user meddling, afraid you dont get to see such things as the update progress.

People running on the bench with Vag tools or not on the bench may or where the chip set programming has been meddled. Low level hack. Hardly worth the trouble thou for map updates which are now free.

Mib1 the developers menu was open. Mib2 you enabled it via a suitable coding device. After that a long menu press and on the second screen to be opened was the SWDL command (software download). That command in mib1 and 2 allows the running of software packs at a command level. Firmware, POI updates, map updates, radio logo updates etc.

The front screen on route to the developers menu in mib3 is shown in this video


This is equivalent to the first screen you get on the long press of the menu button in previous mib units. Ive done that in a mib3 unit but missing is access the second screen by the long press and that's the developers menu.

Access to the infotainment unit via coding has now been clamped down on so no progress bar can be seen let alone user control of the process except firmware updates and checking parameters as the first screen. The second reveal screen is the one one that is missing unless someone has found a way. Doubt it. Where they have put all their attention in locking end users out of it. However offline map updates are allowed but not via the SWDL command.
 
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folpac

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Hello!
I have 19.7 maps in my car (end of 2020 F4 leon mHEV)
The car is online and there is a Connect service. I use Waze on Android Auto. If I use the car's navigation system, will it automatically update or should I do it with an SD card? It doesn't show an update. I had an OTA update in February this year, but I didn't get a Navi update with it. What do you think?
Thank you for the live answers!
 

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That would be a USB update. It shouldn't stop the connect services if you do an offline update to the maps. Seat / Cupra are a bit all over the place with map updates. My understanding a firmware over the air won't trigger a navigation update but you may or may not get a radio logo update after. If you do a manual navigation update that should get overridden with something better if it occurs latter.
 

folpac

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This infotainment and map update for Seat models is very confusing. I hope it will improve in the near future.

Maybe this will lead to a brand service... my system is 1940 and it is also outdated, and I don't know when the next update will arrive...
Thanks for the help! Useful forum!
 

folpac

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Hello!
The OTA update for the 1988 software arrived for the Seat Leon today. I installed it without any problems, but I didn't experience any particular changes. I was waiting for Seat Connect because I haven't been able to become a main user for almost a year. I can't even after countless emails, settings, and following instructions. It opens/closes with 2 factory keys, seat connect, and an application... I've done everything I could... Has anyone been in a similar situation?

The map update hasn't arrived, I'll do that manually.
Thanks in advance for your answers!
 

folpac

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When you update the map, you don't need to do anything no service menu, nothing. Just leave the stick in the port and drive around. The car will do the update automatically as long as it's the newest version.
Hello!
So if I understand correctly. I just plug the pendrive into the USB port and in the closed yard every 15 minutes after turning on the ignition, it updates itself? do I not have to start the update from the service menu?
Thanks in advance for the answers!
 

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Hello!
So if I understand correctly. I just plug the pendrive into the USB port and in the closed yard every 15 minutes after turning on the ignition, it updates itself? do I not have to start the update from the service menu?
Thanks in advance for the answers!
That is 6 of the PDF I showed on post 1 of the thread. The third pdf. All brands are the same.

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But I've also recommend the old mib2 high trick that I use. Basically once it starts off the update will run on for 20 minutes after the ignition is turned off. So if you do a short journey the update may not finish. You can frig that by keeping the door open, or opening it every 15 minutes. 5 minute buffer. That's just a trick to get it all done rather than waiting. It's got a roll back and resume function built into the update the same as mib2 highs. The sum total of ignition on and those 20 minute periods after ignition is turned off sums to what it needs. Including the roll back 😉. Its the roll back you frig to get it done quicker.

People like usbs with the flickering light to show data activity. Its been found that when it does show the map updated the flickering still continues. This may be a function that the maps are fragmented into parts so whilst you got your locality the others are still being installed. If you got one that flickers best to leave it in till it finishes flickering...
 
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folpac

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There is no flashing pendrive, how long does it usually take? I'll get to it today, just so I know how many times I should go out to turn it on every 15 minutes.
 

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They say 40 minutes. But 2 hours should do it. Why its said put the pen in and leave it there. Will vary on the speed of the USB as well.

The issue is where the unzip isnt correct, not placed correctly etc so you never know what's happening why they like like pen drives with LEDs. Is it sitting there and do nothing is resolved.
 
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