Another annoying "feature" of current range of VAG cars with KESSY

[serdar_18fr]

As some of you already know, I own a '25 Cupra Ateca, but I chose to post here for broader visibility.

There are a lot of automated features in the car which can be really useful, like auto-hold, auto-parking brake engagement and release etc.

But there's one thing that really keeps annoying me: Sometimes I prefer to let the engine running while I temporarily leave the car and go check something around the car for a very brief period and then get back in the car, only to find that it decided to turn the engine off. I never managed to get used to this and it keeps confusing me every time, trying to push on the throttle on a turned off engine!

I just want to be able to turn the engine off only when * I * see fit, not when the car decides, just like in all of my previous cars with an ignition barrel/no "kessy".

If there's any way to turn off this behaviour, like some coding or such, I desperately want to know about it.

Thanks,
Serdar

 

[James_R]

It's a pretty uniform safety/security function that I assume is for likes of traffic laws and insurance purposes, where in countries like the UK if you leave your vehicle unattended with the engine running, if someone jumps in it and drives away then technically your policy is invalid.

At the end of the day it's not like you're having to hand crank the engine to start it again, it's a button press

 

[Momochi]

Or the Start-Stop system activated??

 

[serdar_18fr]

Or the Start-Stop system activated??

Start-stop system turning the engine off temporarily to be turned on again by pushing the throttle and shutting it down completely are different things.

 

[East Yorkshire Retrofits]

Start-stop system turning the engine off temporarily to be turned on again by pushing the throttle and shutting it down completely are different things.

If start stop is enabled/currently stopped and you open the door, it'll switch the ignition off fairly quickly

 

[serdar_18fr]

If start stop is enabled/currently stopped and you open the door, it'll switch the ignition off fairly quickly

Yes, I noticed that and tried with start/stop disabled too and it switched off the ignition again. I didn't keep time but I could say the difference wasn't noticeable, if any.

 

[Richard52]

New to kessy, so little experience, but are you taking the key with you when you get out and leave the engine running?

 

[serdar_18fr]

New to kessy, so little experience, but are you taking the key with you when you get out and leave the engine running?

No, I'm not.

 

[Richard52]

My wife and I were visiting someone yesterday with a gate entry system. She was driving, and had the keys in her trouser pocket. She put the car in park, handbrake on, left the engine running, and got out the car. The engine stayed running until she got back in, about a minute later. A message came up on the dash, but I wasn't quick enough to read it as I was on the phone at the time. Stop/start was disabled.

 

[serdar_18fr]

My wife and I were visiting someone yesterday with a gate entry system. She was driving, and had the keys in her trouser pocket. She put the car in park, handbrake on, left the engine running, and got out the car. The engine stayed running until she got back in, about a minute later. A message came up on the dash, but I wasn't quick enough to read it as I was on the phone at the time. Stop/start was disabled.

Thanks for your contribution to the subject. I plan to try and observe again all the possible combinations of start/stop state, transmission position, key in/out state etc.

 

[Tell]

It probably doesn't like you taking the key out of the car and out of range so stops the engine. Think those drive away thieves have a few problems without the Kessy key. Haven't tried it . Perhaps the engine stops next time you are stationary. May be a google.

Hmmm having done the Google reckon its start stop being active and may be the keys removed. I keep SS coded out but you can't do that on newer models and don't in anycase shut any doors with the engine running and keys inside. Don't trust kessy. Tyre pumping up I do that way with the 12v socket and door open. It behaves.

People change the SS switch as an alternative now you can't code stop start out as VAG tightens up workarounds on newer models. Next car will be an EV so no SS or gear box . But donging is increased and a new set of workarounds. Cross that bridge when we get to it.

PS people moan those that live in gated communities of the donging they get whilst opening the gate.