DSG Moving off

[rllmuk]

Does anyone else with the DSG (FR) notice moving off in first or reverse is very jumpy? It's like the clutch is being applied, then removed, then applied, all with the same throttle input. Bunny hopping as an 'L' driver comes to mind. If I accelerate harder it moves off fine but I end up driving off like I stole it.

Once moving there are no probs, but I'm wondering it it doesn't handle the progression from swift driving to moving off at a gradual pace very well. I've had it in to the dealers once to take a look but they think it's normal and did a full adaption to appease me. What are everyone else's experiences? I can't say i noticed it for the first 11 months of me having the car from new, but maybe I drove it differently...

 

[stevesulsh]

yep I notice that when creeping forward in traffic (almost every weekday commute) it seems very difficult even with delicate throttle control to progress smoothly the car seems to lurch lurch lurch then smooth out as the revs pick up, if sitting stationary in drive with radio off and air con off you can hear what I think are the clutches engaging and disengaging I don't tend to do that too often though..

 

[Maximus2000uk]

Yup I third this. It is very jumpy and loses grip. In a race from the lights, the car is almost rendered hopeless, unless on brand new fresh tarmac! I do however, agree that pulling away calmly cannot be done with ease...after almost a year of ownership, I have worked out how to handle the beast!

 

[Toxic]

mate had a similar issue with his. Dealer ship Identified the issue as a Gearbox control module (they are very expensive) however he had his done under warranty.

 

[rllmuk]

Been out to a dealers during the week and went out with a technician and they agree it's not normal behaviour. You can actually hear it clunking into first when coming to a stop, like it has no idea what to do. Also, it gets worse the longer I drive it in one session, after an hour it's horrendous. Reversing is a joke unless I floor it.

It's booked in for up to 3 days of investigation as a result!

 

[LeonFR07DSG]

There is a known issue with the dsg boxes regarding this...my friend has a edition 30 golf and his was doing the same...he had his DSG box replaced...all is good.

luckily i dont have any problems so far.

 

[rllmuk]

Hmm. Whilst frustrating I'm glad it has happened during warranty period. Seems quite a few others have had it to, interesting reading.

 

[Mogster]

I get a smooth pull away with my DSG FR, the clutches seem very slightly grabby when cold but that's about it.

I do agree about the wheelspin issue though, but I don't see it as that bad a problem. I'm not sure how an auto clutch can ever know if you want a gently pull away or a racing start and with the FR and Cupra there's 200bhp+ going through the front tyres which makes tyre thrashing more likely, no?

 

[Invisible]

When I had my FR I used to get the odd 'sticky' patch (pardon the pun!) where nothing happened under light application of the throttle but usually a little more juice sorted it.

However, this was not all the time and usually fine under slow moving.

I think what I experienced was acceptable but it soulds like yours has gone to the next level and possibly suggests something wrong with gearbox/sert up itself.

Be persistent with the dealer, I think becuase the replacement is likely to be an expensive fix under warrnaty they pushing back.

If you can get them to let you test drive another FR and have a stealer person do the same in both cars with you at least tell if its the same for both cars!

Hope you get it sorted

 

[Mogster]

When I had my FR I used to get the odd 'sticky' patch (pardon the pun!) where nothing happened under light application of the throttle but usually a little more juice sorted it.

However, this was not all the time and usually fine under slow moving.

I seem to get that when I've been accelerating then need to brake and then move off quickly again, at a roundabout say.

I think the DSG tees up a higher gear for the next change when I'm on the gas but can't respond quickly enough to be ready to select the lower gear when I suddenly brake then accelerate again. Basically Its expecting an up change but what I ask for is a downchange. Its something you learn to manage.

 

[rllmuk]

If you can get them to let you test drive another FR and have a stealer person do the same in both cars with you at least tell if its the same for both cars!

No need. I would have resorted to this if they'd not accepted something is already wrong, but just being in the car for ten seconds was all it took for the guy to say it's not right.

I can accept slight delays etc. but now it sounds like it's doing damage to the gearbox every time I stop/start, getting progressively worse.

 

[shaunfriend]

I get an occasional clunk as the gearbox engages 1st if I have been going a bit more rapid than would be considered normal a few moments beforehand.

It's been back to the dealer who assured me nothing was wrong.

I hope it doesn't get worse as its now just outside of warranty....

 

[rllmuk]

Car was in all this week and the upshot is that they've ordered a new mechatronics unit after dialogue with Seat UK - 7 day delay on the part so I've got my car back for now. Dealer did say this is the first one they've ever done. Also, the new Ibiza SC 1.4 is nice and all, but christ it was good to be back driving my car! Night and day.

Edit: I should say that for anyone else who gets this prob it only manifests itself after driving for half an hour or so when it's nice and hot. If the dealer can't replicate take them out for a drive once it's doing it or tell them to take it out for a good hour or so and they'll spot it.

 

[studly2007ni]

Guys sounds like the gearbox control module, i had mine replaced and fixed the problem. I was getting all the problems u were getting and the car runs like new now they might fob u off saying it needs a gearbox oil change but that didnt work for my car ....

 

[Hugo Nebula]

I've been having the same problem with mine. When it's warm, especially after having been on a 'vigourous' run, it's very difficult to pull up to or away from lights or give ways smoothly.

I've twice taken it into my dealer, but wouldn't you know it, the fault diminishes within half a mile of their premises, so when me and the mechanic go out in it, it drives smoothly and I end up sounding like a whinger.

I've got it booked in for a full day next week, so if one of the mechanics wants to take it to visit their Auntie in Glasgow, fine, so long as the fault manifests itself.

 

[Hugo Nebula]

Update: I took the car to the dealers (*), and once again they said they couldn't find fault with it. They said they reset the ECU software to default, and they seemed to think this would cure it. It didn't. I'll have to take it in next week and have words with them.

*Courtesey car was a new shape Skoda Fabia - not a patch on the Mk 1 Fabia.

 

[rllmuk]

Keep pestering them, it's an expensive fix but no reason why you should have to fit the bill when it gets a lot worse out of warranty.

As far as my car goes, the part is still on order from Germany. There are none available right now apparently but they're waiting to hear more. Brilliant.

 

[Hugo Nebula]

I don't know what it is about the fault, but it only occurs when I'm in the car without the mechanic.

They've had it in again all day, and still can't find fault with it. I even drove around with the mechanic for a good half-hour & it didn't manifest itself. Ten minutes after admitting defeat, it was doing it again!

I think I'll try my luck at another dealer!

 

[rllmuk]

Must be a sligtly different manifestation to mine then as I always get the prob after 30 mins of driving, regardless of style or type.

 

[rllmuk]

Well, 2 months after having the new mechatronics unit fitted all is well. Reversing is still a bit jumpy, but I put that down to me always moving out of spaces to quickly, as if you let if reverse you out itself it's smooth as.

Also, I noticed the manual has lots of tips on how to use the DSG to it's fullest extent, as not all of it is obvious. For one, it states you should leave it in D at the lights, when I always used to put it into N/P to save the clutch, this does indeed result in a very smooth getaway.

Anyway, fingers crossed all remains well.