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Fuel Economy and Issues with Leon FR TDI
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Something must be seriously wrong because I'm getting about 35MPG when trying in the PD170. The reason I bought it was for economy if I aint getting 40+ theres no point having a diesel.
I used to be able to just touch 45MPG with my DP170 on a long run. It all depends how often it's doing a regen to be honest. If you can't go more than 100 miles without a regen kicking it you could well only see 35MPG.
Get VCDS and do a forced regen, that will proper clear it out and may make your MPG better.
Get VCDS and do a forced regen, that will proper clear it out and may make your MPG better.
Luke,
I'm getting a comfortable 500 - 550m on a tank, depending on when I fill up, a tank is usually about 10 - 11 gallons, average I would say is a close 50mpg on a tank.
Around town drops off a touch, but I don't do much town driving - my normal commute is 220m return trip 180m of that is A34 at 70 - 80mph, the rest is New Forest & Bucks country roads. If I give it stick & high speeds the worst I've had is 38mpg.
Issues - dpf is one, personally i've only ever had one light on, during the cold snow snap, but cleared that easily, 2000rpm in 4th or 5th for 10mins etc... my commute appears ideal, but others have appeared to have had lots of dpf issues.
If you looking at a PD170 you will more than like have Injector & Wiring Loom issues, if they haven't already been changed avoid them, especially if been serviced etc outside SEAT, plus anything on an 07 plate is pushing 4years now & getting less likely that SEAT will entertain goodwill gesture over Injectors / Loom.
Altho' my issues seem sorted, car running well & i'm happy to keep it, I'd save harder & opt for a CR170...
I'm getting a comfortable 500 - 550m on a tank, depending on when I fill up, a tank is usually about 10 - 11 gallons, average I would say is a close 50mpg on a tank.
Around town drops off a touch, but I don't do much town driving - my normal commute is 220m return trip 180m of that is A34 at 70 - 80mph, the rest is New Forest & Bucks country roads. If I give it stick & high speeds the worst I've had is 38mpg.
Issues - dpf is one, personally i've only ever had one light on, during the cold snow snap, but cleared that easily, 2000rpm in 4th or 5th for 10mins etc... my commute appears ideal, but others have appeared to have had lots of dpf issues.
If you looking at a PD170 you will more than like have Injector & Wiring Loom issues, if they haven't already been changed avoid them, especially if been serviced etc outside SEAT, plus anything on an 07 plate is pushing 4years now & getting less likely that SEAT will entertain goodwill gesture over Injectors / Loom.
Altho' my issues seem sorted, car running well & i'm happy to keep it, I'd save harder & opt for a CR170...
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Why not take a look at the reference sport, They are fairly well spec'd and there are plenty in the classifieds with the aero kit, Only the brakes to tackle then
Christian.
I'm in a similar boat and was thinking about a PD170 FR.
Are the DPF issues and MPG really that bad? I was also looking at Golf's and A3's - presumably these have the same problems in PD170 guise? If so it is surprising that an Audi owner would put up with this (lol) and also surprising that used car values don't seem to have sufferered obviously. Or are we suffering from forum paranoia here and just hearing of a relatively small percentage of cars with issues?
Locally I can get a 57 FR with 30k on the clock for £10.9K or a 140 ref sport 08 reg with 40k for just £8.5k, I'm seriously tempted by the latter...
Are the DPF issues and MPG really that bad? I was also looking at Golf's and A3's - presumably these have the same problems in PD170 guise? If so it is surprising that an Audi owner would put up with this (lol) and also surprising that used car values don't seem to have sufferered obviously. Or are we suffering from forum paranoia here and just hearing of a relatively small percentage of cars with issues?
Locally I can get a 57 FR with 30k on the clock for £10.9K or a 140 ref sport 08 reg with 40k for just £8.5k, I'm seriously tempted by the latter...
Most posts are about problems, people seem to be more interested about the negatives rather than positives.
I don't want to start a post saying "my car is ace with no problems." just in case I jinx it.
I bet everybody else is the same though?
I'm two weeks into a 11MY FR TDI, I've refuelled twice and I've got 50-51MPG out of it. We do mostly motorway driving.
Thanks for all the feedback.
Any of you had problems with the injectors? That's one thing that is putting me off the 170 at the moment and opting for a 140 but the FR seems so much nicer.
Any of you had problems with the injectors? That's one thing that is putting me off the 170 at the moment and opting for a 140 but the FR seems so much nicer.
TBH the facelift cars have nicer interiors. I have a facelift Ecomotive SE and the look and feel of the in-cabin gadgetry is much nicer - the climate controls, dash, stereo etc. With my pre-facelift FR, at night on dark roads you could just see this wall of red light on grey plastic and even turning the dash lighting down to minimum, it was still very bright and very red.
The only thing I miss from my FR's interior is the seats - the FR seats are really very good (not that the standard ones are bad).
The other thing to mention is that the pre-facelift FR suspension was punishingly hard and jarring... mine was so hard that you couldn't actually hold a conversation with your passenger on anything but a perfectly smooth road. After a few months I got completely fed up with it and ended up getting it upgraded to Koni FSDs with Eibach Pro Kit springs and it made a great difference... but it cost about £700 and put my insurance premium up slightly.
So make sure you're happy with the ride quality if you test drive a pre-facelift FR. (The newer ones have an improved setup which is far more comfortable.)
The only thing I miss from my FR's interior is the seats - the FR seats are really very good (not that the standard ones are bad).
The other thing to mention is that the pre-facelift FR suspension was punishingly hard and jarring... mine was so hard that you couldn't actually hold a conversation with your passenger on anything but a perfectly smooth road. After a few months I got completely fed up with it and ended up getting it upgraded to Koni FSDs with Eibach Pro Kit springs and it made a great difference... but it cost about £700 and put my insurance premium up slightly.
So make sure you're happy with the ride quality if you test drive a pre-facelift FR. (The newer ones have an improved setup which is far more comfortable.)
Had my 57 plate PD 170 for a few weeks now and already filled up a couple of times.
So far about ~550 to a tank which I think works out at about 48mpg. If I drive conservatively I get just over 50mpg over an 80mile round trip to my work - about 60% motorway @ ~65mph and the rest urban/traffic jams etc.
So far about ~550 to a tank which I think works out at about 48mpg. If I drive conservatively I get just over 50mpg over an 80mile round trip to my work - about 60% motorway @ ~65mph and the rest urban/traffic jams etc.
I don't understand why people are all about getting the best mpg out of their FR tdi. Driven hard, it will, ultimately get a better mpg than the petrol version.
Having a performance diesel is to have, as it suggests, the performance and as I've said, better mpg over the petrol version.
Why buy a car like this if you are going to drive like miss daisy just to get the best mpg?
Buy a 1.0 fiesta and you'll be just fine!!
Rant over!!
Having a performance diesel is to have, as it suggests, the performance and as I've said, better mpg over the petrol version.
Why buy a car like this if you are going to drive like miss daisy just to get the best mpg?
Buy a 1.0 fiesta and you'll be just fine!!
Rant over!!
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Maybe some people (like me) who do a lot of miles like a mix of good economy on long drives and the extra power and torque to have a bit of fun from time to time. So miss daisy or not your argument doesn't really hold water, because if fuel economy didn't mater to anyone surely we'd all be driving turbo petrol's?
As above - I cover 20k a year and I need a car which has a mixture, looks good and has the power as and when needed. The FR fits the bill - let's face it nobody buys a Diesel without wanting to save money.
Sorry, my post wasn't directed at you, just a general punt.
But you have pretty much quoted what I said, in having the near performance and better mpg of the equivalent Fr, which is the turbo petrol. So it does hold water.
It just bums me off when people are moaning that they aren't getting the mpg they would like out of a performance diesel.
Totally agree with you mate, but there are people that moan about not getting excellent mpg out their FR. What do they expect?
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same aslike the better mpg during the working week & enjoy the performance over the weekend
love my FR, just about the perfect mix...
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