LCR Mk2 - Autocar road-test

[6th.replicant]

Seem to like it, although they think the suspension setup is too stiff for UK road surfaces...

http://www.autocar.co.uk/CarReviews/FirstDrives/Seat-Leon-2.0-TSI-265-Cupra-R/244162/

 

[Ronin225]

Personally it just looks like a cupra to me and wont be having me rushing to the garage to trade my LCR in
It may drive well but i dont think it really looks the part
If you are going to be parting with 20k you want something that ticks all the boxes and unfortunately for me it doesn't.
There is so much choice for that money in the hot hatch department, it just doesnt seem to have the awe about it
I will keep my mk1 LCR and see if they do a more special version when the mk3 drops

 

[Blade]

quote "turbo blowing at 2.2bar, it produces 261bhp at 6000rpm and a healthy 258lb ft"

Thats 31psi !!- WTF

 

[m0rk]

From the PR

The new engine on the CUPRA R is a development of the familiar 2.0 TSI. Its 265 hp comes from a different engine management set-up, as well as greater turbo pressure compared to the 240 hp engine: 1.9 bar at maximum output and 2.2 bar at maximum torque compared to the 1.8 bar of the 240 hp 2.0 TSI.

Seems a little high, so maybe someone's got their calculations out by a factor (of 1bar)

 

[Blade]

Thanks for that info Mork - thought i was seeing things but if they have raised the bar overall obviousley the engineering has been improved as well.

 

[Al]

Seat says its number one market will be the UK

Thats interesting, as is the 50kg loss of weight over the original MK2 Leon Cupra and the transmission upgrade

Also, if it books at under 20k, will there be a market for the Cupra? As memory serves, its list price is only just less than that.

 

[JMP]

From the PR

The new engine on the CUPRA R is a development of the familiar 2.0 TSI. Its 265 hp comes from a different engine management set-up, as well as greater turbo pressure compared to the 240 hp engine: 1.9 bar at maximum output and 2.2 bar at maximum torque compared to the 1.8 bar of the 240 hp 2.0 TSI.

Seems a little high, so maybe someone's got their calculations out by a factor (of 1bar)

Thats just the way manufacturers often state the boost. Figure is overboost + atmospheric pressure.

 

[Haddock]

Thats just the way manufacturers often state the boost. Figure is overboost + atmospheric pressure.

bara rather than barg (a being absolute and g being gauge)

Chris

 

[warren_cox]

although they think the suspension setup is too stiff for UK road surfaces...

Seems to be a common dislike of anything Audi or SEAT. The Golf GTi always gets praise in this space so I don't know what they do differently at VW? You would think it would all be the same parts.

 

[Mr Cellotape]

Seems to be a common dislike of anything Audi or SEAT. The Golf GTi always gets praise in this space so I don't know what they do differently at VW? You would think it would all be the same parts.

Its horses for courses. The golf GTI is a nice car built to a more expensive budget. The MK2 LCR will be a rare car in comparison.

Still not sure about the green

 

[tom-cupra]

Are those wheels 19?

 

[LeonFR07DSG]

Are those wheels 19?

yes

 

[chrisboyle999]

Thats interesting, as is the 50kg loss of weight over the original MK2 Leon Cupra and the transmission upgrade

Also, if it books at under 20k, will there be a market for the Cupra? As memory serves, its list price is only just less than that.

£23K in the last pargraph of THIS review al.

if its less than £20K i'll in fenwicks window!!

 

[n_olympios]

Thats interesting, as is the 50kg loss of weight over the original MK2 Leon Cupra and the transmission upgrade

What weight loss and what transmission upgrade?

 

[chrisboyle999]

What weight loss and what transmission upgrade?

quote;

'The R has the same turbocharged 2.0-litre petrol engine found in the 237bhp Leon Cupra, but over and above it the R gets a revised ECU, a boost in turbo pressure, a new high-pressure fuel pump, a different intercooler and a tweaked exhaust system. The changes lift power to 261bhp, and the torque output climbs from 221lb ft to 258lb ft. The extra grunt means the six-speed manual gearbox – the only transmission available – has also been strengthened to cope.'

 

[n_olympios]

Thanks for the quote, Chris.

How about the weight loss though? 50kgs is a massive amount of weight for today's standards. It'd have to lose the spare wheel, rear seats, several sound deadening materials (as if the Leon had lots in the first place hehe) etc...

 

[warren_cox]

From Autocar:

Should I buy one?
The problem is it is difficult to work out who this car is for. Seat says its number one market will be the UK; we’re not so sure.

SEAT say the number one market will be the UK???! Do they usually make these kind of statements without polling the buyer base. If they read some of the post on here they may change their minds, go back to the drawing board and have another go. If it had been a GENUINELY good effort, I'd have considered one for Mar 2010 deliver, but at the moment I wouldn't even consider it.

 

[Al]

From Autocar:

Should I buy one?
The problem is it is difficult to work out who this car is for. Seat says its number one market will be the UK; we’re not so sure.

SEAT say the number one market will be the UK???! Do they usually make these kind of statements without polling the buyer base. If they read some of the post on here they may change their minds, go back to the drawing board and have another go. If it had been a GENUINELY good effort, I'd have considered one for Mar 2010 deliver, but at the moment I wouldn't even consider it.

x2

 

[SSimpson3]

Seat Leon 2.0 TSI 240 Cupra £20,450
Seat Leon 2.0 TSI 265 Cupra R £19,990

this part confused me, why would the Cupra R be cheaper than the Cupra, think somebody made a little mistake

 

[stevesulsh]

Cupra R expected to be around €34000 (At Least) in Ireland don't you just love the Euro and 6.5% higher vat, car prices are crippling over here. may have to drive over and purchase in UK then re register over here