LCR225 Remap

[CBass]

I got chatting to a guy from Superchips at Castle Combe last weekend where I was marshalling at a Rally show (which was awesome but very wet, some big names and big cars showing off and going off, but that is another story!) ... anyway to cut a short story shorter I am now seriously looking to get my car remapped, but with the number of options and opinions out there I am a tad confused, doing searches only adds to the confusion.

I have now done 33k in the car and it has no other mods - I don't plan to do any further mods either so this is the one and only (except a Forge 007p DV - as I understand it the standard plastic one won't cope with a remap, is this right?).

I am not fussed about 0-60 or top speed, what I want is in-gear acceleration either for overtaking in lower gears or pulling away in 6th at say 50mph on a motorway type driving. So I think that torque at 3-4000rpm is what I am after. Also the ability to switch it back to standard for the winter would be useful to stay safe and conserve tyres. Obviously the option of a trial would be good so you know what you are buying before you sign up.

I am in Suffolk so a local dealer would be useful but not necessary as I get about a bit, as it were.

Any help you can provide would be useful...

 

[Empi5]

The plastic DV can cope with a remap and indeed plenty of people have proven it. What you are doing is replacing a plastic part with a diaphram for a Metal with a spring, so yes its stronger, and unfortunatly the OEM Dv is prone to failure.

I can only go on personal experience, but definitly try Revo. Also consider APR, Jabba , and there are some new tuners who are on this site as well, ie bells autos, and P torque tuning, You basically are spoilt for choice. Go and have a trial and then you can decide.

 

[andycupra]

revo is quite aggressive as a stock remap and so this can be tricky in the wet.
So on that basis you may want to try a custom map and state you want a smoother map thats not so aggressive.
The problem with the custom maps is they are often difficult to get back to stock if required.

Alternatively you could run revo and drop the boost down a bit for the winter or turn it off using their sps3 controller. However this would cost you about another £250.
(or borrow one and set it up to your likes)

APR could be a good option if you have cruise control as you can change between stock and mapped through this. or if you dont get it i beleive they fit it very competitively if done at same time as a map

 

[CBass]

If Revo is quite aggressive, does that mean it is more like having turbo lag where you get the feeling of having nothing and then all the power floods in at once when you hit the right revs? If so do you have any idea what revs that is, if it is the right place then it isn't a problem. I never accelerate hard in 1st and take 2nd easy until mid revs and often short shift into 3rd anyway then use 3rd and 4th to accelerate. If it is at-speed accelerating I never down shift out of sixth anyway but could certainly do with more oomph. I never drive to prove a point, I could just do with a bit more get up and go! I don’t really mind having that wiz bang effect as that is what my GTi-R had and it actually felt like there was a turbo, which sometime the LCR lacks as it is more gradual. If this causes problems with FWD that could be a different matter though!

I saw that with APR but as far as I am aware no LCRs had cruise control (even as an option) so that is an extra cost as well.

Perhaps you are right with the custom code – and maybe there isn’t really a requirement to revert back to standard mapping and I am just being too cautious.

I guess the answer is to try as many different options out before I buy and go with what feels most suitable…is there any downside to this approach?

 

[Tallpaul]

Get REVO with an SPS1 switch.

This guy in Thetford will fit it for you and is a top bloke: www.more-go.com

Jabba are close too, and you'll get before and after dyno's of your power (if you pay for it).

Personnaly i thought the conveniance of driving to see Dave, having a cuppa with his Mrs then going home 30 mins later with a fantasticaly faster car was unbeatable. I bought my SPS1 2nd hand for £100, haven't felt the urge to switch the map off yet.

 

[CBass]

I must admit that sounds ideal - it's good to have a recommendation of somewhere to have it done too!

Cheers.

 

[andycupra]

sounds like you will quiet like a bit of a kick, for which revo would be a good option.,

if you can get an sps3 or know somone with one then that would be a great option, as you can play with the settings to suit.

I believe apr also do a system to change setting other then the cruise control...

 

[CBass]

Another question!

Is Revo detectable without driving the car and knowing what it should perform like as standard?

Can anything be done to inadvertently loose the remap or mess it up?

Just thinking about warranty, servicing, and dealers / garages…

 

[Feel]

"is Revo detectable" is a difficult one. Ultimately - yes. By a dealer - no.

Not sure what you mean with your "without driving the car" question

Inadvertently loose the remap? Don't think it's likely. Even if it did happen you'd get better support from a Revo dealer than a SEAT Dealer.

You'll be fine - mine's been fine for 60 odd thousand Revo'd miles