Sadly I imagine the hardware limitation will be the turbo there... It just won't flow as much as you'd want.
Then you're into hybrids, and potentially losing the transition between the S/C & the Turbo
Interesting times though...
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Sadly I imagine the hardware limitation will be the turbo there... It just won't flow as much as you'd want.
Then you're into hybrids, and potentially losing the transition between the S/C & the Turbo
Interesting times though...
I think the turbo can manage that.
if its making 215hp on a standard engine with just a stage 1 remap. The main rstrictions are the induction and exhaust. If you add an air intake your looking at a potential 5-10hp. If you add the downpipe and stage 2 map your making it much freer flowing, so the turbo doesnt waste power trying to force the exhaust gases though a really restrictive system. Lets say this gives 5-10hp extra.
Alot of additional power/torque can be gained increasing the ignition timing on a forced induction motor. the limitations with this are the Air intake AIT's need to be kept low, and high octane fuel needs to be used, or you end up with detonation, knock and bent rods etc. If you add an intercooler to keep the AITs low, the stage 2 map can advance the ignition timing more releasing more Hp/Lbft.
So lets say
the the intake gives 5hp
the downpipe and stage 2 map gives 5hp
and the intercooler with map adjusted to utilize it releases another 5hp.
then were looking at 230hp. Lets be fair none of the above seems far fetched or wishful thinking in any way if anything id say thats on the conservative side.
That said 230hp is based ont eh fact that the stage 1 is giving a genuine 215hp, and not just generous rolling roads
Just saying... Until it's done, I'd rather not hedge too much on the max power method of estimating power.
Need to find the compressor maps really, rather than just assuming that the turbo has plenty to give up
Need to find the compressor maps really, rather than just assuming that the turbo has plenty to give up
I'll be very supprised if it doesn't make 230BHP.
I posted a link a few weeks back where someone made near that on a standard turbo in a rocco.
I posted a link a few weeks back where someone made near that on a standard turbo in a rocco.
Yeah the bloke from INA was after this the other week. Not sure if he found it or not.
That dyno plot was fishy IIRC, something didn't add up - I think it was the 30C temperature in December that might be it (though it might not have been, as I have slept since then)
I want to see the results of a stage 1 car on dyno dynamics rollers. every time i see 220 and 225Hp quoted from guys using AMDs rollers (or even AwesomeGTIs recently) i tend to deduct around 10Hp off the figures.
This is why i always ask to see before and after graphs, otherwise figures are useless.
This is why i always ask to see before and after graphs, otherwise figures are useless.
i had a thought last day that the compressor is being activated with a magnetic pulley can't they just lock it so it is alway's on also in the high revs the tuner told me that the compressor works on 1.4 bar so if you add up the turbo pressurre with that. i think they also do something like that with compound turbocharging but i know if it will work the stock internals wouldn't handle this kind of boost.
The charger has a pretty small pully as standard as its designed for high boost at low RPM. So this will have a huge effect on the life of the charger.
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Speak to the following 3 companies :
AmD Essex
Awesome GTI
Revo HQ
All of the above have the promotional pricing to hand and I can assure you that you will be very impressed..thats all im going to say
Pricing now released...
Speak to the following 3 companies :
AmD Essex
Awesome GTI
Revo HQ
All of the above have the promotional pricing to hand and I can assure you that you will be very impressed..thats all im going to say
please tell us the price i'm from the netherlands will it be availeble here?
The system has been designed specifically for the Cupra/Bocanegra utilising 70mm pipework.
As this is the case it wont be compatible with the OE rear silencer on the FR.
Milltek will be looking into a system for the FR, hoping it will just be a different outlet pipe or rear silencer..will keep you updated on this.
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