question on induction kit

[sloppycupra]

hi guys just a few thorts and advice on induction kits please!

right been thinking of a few ideas and have seen ppl taking cold air feeds to the front fog light holes!! does this not get effected when its raining?

also has nobody tried running an open filter down to the front bumper positioned in a gap? as i have seen some big power turbo cars running open filters poking out of the car!! would this be affected when raining

cheers Nathan

 

[chrisbond69]

it would get wet when raining and the maf probably would fail if you positioned it at the front bumper down low and them jap cars most are fine weather cars. and i see some people who get cold feed from the fog light or the standard position with a feed like you get with the green dynatwist filter

 

[David_smith_909]

cold air feeds from foglights do not wet the filter element

 

[acidstrato]

ofcourse people have thought about it? are u honestly too lazy to do any research?

actual cold air intakes position the filter down in the bumper so that it is away from the heat of the engine bay and the intake is long and so the sound echoes. BUT first.. problem is the gap space for the intake pipe...its tight, second...the smic is located where u want the filter so again..its tight

and third...there aint many kits out there

but it has been done using kits designed for other models

all u can do is experiment with one

 

[Forbez]

Does the MAF like the turbelant air thats being forged in, or should it be sucked from an area of ambient pressure, ie, within the wing??

 

[acidstrato]

dont think it matters tbh...after all its the turbo sucking the air in through the maf and somewhere along the long line of sensors the maf sensor is gonna have some control over the turbo hence why the turbo doesnt boost correctly when u got a fecked maf

so its only going to have a certain amount of air pass through, which the maf should be more than capable of handling

 

[Forbez]

The turbo acts as a vacuum sucking the air in through, its just a thought, bill posted a while back about the MAF's not liking turbalent air, and this being a cause of failure.

 

[acidstrato]

i would have thought it would only count if u were truely forcing air through the maf

seems very hard to do though with most of the kits out there as opposed to how some other cars literally point their air flow sensors with a filter on the end or throttle bodies towards the direction that the car drives in, in which case air would be passing through the air flow meter in a way in which its not intended

 

[Forbez]

But if the air is being forced up from the bumper up the ducting and then through the filter, and then MAF, thats being forced is it?

 

[acidstrato]

ahhhh I see what your saying now Tom, had a blonde moment thinking u were just on about locating the filter in the bumper

 

[David_smith_909]

i wouldnt have thought it was forced though, at the end of the day the filter will only suck whats needed, not wanted air is not forced in??? i done mine purely because iv got a induction and heatsheild, obviously some warm air will get to the filter element when in traffic etc .... so in theory all im doing is blowing that warm air away and replacing it with cold air within the heatsheild/cone area so when the filter sucks its cold air and not cold/warmish air, if you know what i mean ???

 

[Forbez]

Is the ducting just pointing at a filter, or is it secured to, for example the shield of a dynatwist?

 

[David_smith_909]

just pointing at it, its not a enclosed filter like the dynatwist, its just got a heatsheild

 

[Forbez]

Ahh, i was refering to the enclosed ones.

 

[didgy2]

i did run it for a while with the ducting at the front,ran very lumpy and didn't like it.Rerouted to the wing and ran much smoother.It was as if it was not getting an even flow of air,more so at higher speed.

i think the am motorsport boys were running open filter actually down in the wing and water didn't bother it

 

[Forbez]

Yeah, mike and Addo, are selling a relocation kit for the airfilter, to sit down in the wing.

 

[David_smith_909]

Yeah, mike and Addo, are selling a relocation kit for the airfilter, to sit down in the wing.

would you still get the same noise with it being in the wing??

 

[Forbez]

I think so, as they use metal piping to locate the filter in the wing so it'll be carried along the pipe.

Their website is down at the mo though.

 

[CupraTgirl]

I have seen a Pipercross filter like the Carbonia that must sit somewhere under the battery (may need to use relocation brackets on the battery for it to sit right)

I have heard it on a Leon and it sounds awesome but i dont know if can face doing anything that may my car up with whats been going on this month with her

I just want the real loud suck and dump noise without hurting my car

 

[David_smith_909]

I think so, as they use metal piping to locate the filter in the wing so it'll be carried along the pipe.

Their website is down at the mo though.

Their website is always down, i have never seen it up, ever infact

Do you think il get any benefits from relocating mine to the wing, it might be cooler in their and more stable air, but isnt that why iv got the heatsheild and air feed??? confused now on what to do ............