ReMap - Help!!!

[Pky]

Hey guys and gurls....

had my car re-mapped this weekend, the mapper said it could take a little while to take full effect fo the map... these are my VAG-COM results after 100 odd miles, they dont seem right???

Its a stage 1 map (not revo or CC)


is it my car (boost leak somewhere, checked, cant find any) or a valve???

or the map?? Thanks for looking.

run1 (with forge Split-R with the cone on)

Saturday	23	June	2007	18:01:57										
6K0 906 032 AA 		1.8L 20VT EU3       0002												
														
	Group A:	'115				Group B:	'003				Group C:	 Not Running		
		RPM	Load	Absolute Pres.	Absolute Pres.		RPM	Mass Flow	Load	Ign. Timing				
	TIME					TIME					TIME			
MARKER	STAMP	 /min	%	 mbar	 mbar	STAMP	 /min	 g/s	%	 °BTDC	STAMP			
	0	840	20.3	990	1010	0.38	840	3.33	1.2	1.5				
	0.78	840	19.5	990	1010	1.18	840	3.25	0.8	21.8				
	1.58	1880	62.4	1800	1000	1.98	2520	43.47	100	10.5				
	2.38	1480	88	1970	1270	2.78	1640	28.39	100	0.8				
	3.18	2120	96.2	1860	1330	3.58	2680	57.56	100	4.5				
	3.98	3280	119.5	1750	1550	4.4	4000	95.83	100	10.5				
	4.8	4600	128.6	1730	1590	5.29	5280	133.11	100	3				
	5.69	5680	126.3	1790	1600	6.09	6080	142.61	100	9.8				
	6.6	6600	117.3	1640	1490	6.99	7000	145.92	99.6	18				
	7.4	6960	45.9	990	1300	7.79	6160	36.58	25.1	30.8				
	8.19	4520	111.3	1880	1480	8.6	4680	117.97	100	9				
	8.99	4920	130.1	1890	1600	9.4	5160	128.92	100	8.3				
	9.79	5360	128.6	1910	1610	10.19	5520	129.44	100	12.8				
	10.59	5720	124.1	1940	1570	10.99	5880	136.19	100	9.8				
	11.4	6040	122.6	1860	1530	11.79	6160	143.61	100	9.8				
	12.19	6320	120.3	1800	1530	12.58	6080	4.75	5.5	22.5				
	12.98	5440	9.8	990	1200	13.4	4800	9.31	4.3	8.3				
	13.78	4200	10.5	990	1080	14.28	3440	7.06	3.5	12.8				
	14.68	2880	11.3	990	1050	15.08	2360	5.33	2	10.5				
	15.58	1760	12	990	1040	15.98	1400	3.42	0.4	3				
	16.38	1160	14.3	990	1030	16.78	1040	3.28	0.8	9				
	17.18	920	16.5	990	1020	17.58	840	2.94	0.8	16.5				
	27.57	840	17.3	990	1020	27.17	920	3.36	0.8	9				
	28.37	840	18.8	990	1010	27.97	840	3.17	1.2	9				
	29.17	800	18.8	990	1010	28.77	840	3	0.8	12				
	29.97	920	21.1	990	1010	29.57	840	4.06	2.4	0.8				
	30.77	840	19.5	990	1010	30.37	880	4.19	2	5.3				
	31.57	840	21.8	990	1010	31.17	840	3.61	1.6	0.8				
	32.37	800	57.1	990	1010	31.97	760	6	4.3	21.8				
	33.17	1080	39.8	990	1030	32.77	1080	8.25	5.9	8.3				
	33.97	1040	28.6	990	1030	33.57	840	3.42	2.4	21				
	43.87	840	20.3	990	1020	43.38	840	3.39	1.2	0.8				
	44.67	1880	72.9	2040	1020	44.27	1000	18.06	89.8	2.3				
	45.56	1480	78.2	2090	1150	45.17	1160	17.78	98.8	4.5				
	46.36	2520	97	1870	1330	45.96	1960	34.92	100	8.3				
	47.28	3960	121.1	1820	1600	46.88	3280	77.83	100	11.3				
	48.08	5200	130.8	1810	1590	47.68	4600	111.25	100	7.5				
	48.88	6160	120.3	1740	1510	48.48	5720	135.69	100	9.8				
	49.68	6960	110.5	1070	1480	49.28	6600	145.92	99.6	13.5				
	50.48	4320	110.5	1890	1300	50.08	6720	9.56	6.3	27.8				
	51.28	4880	127.8	1890	1600	50.88	4640	113.47	100	11.3				
	52.08	5360	125.6	1920	1600	51.68	5120	127.92	100	10.5				
	52.87	5760	121.1	1930	1570	52.48	5560	130.81	100	12				
	53.67	6120	121.1	1850	1540	53.27	5960	136.19	100	12.8				
	54.57	4.8	231 001 200	161 033 133	157 018 250	54.07	6240	144.14	100	12				
	64.26	840	20.3	990	1010	63.77	880	3.31	1.6	5.3				
	65.06	840	19.5	990	1010	64.66	880	3.42	1.6	4.5

run2 slowly to redline (with cover over the split-r)

Sunday	24	June	2007	15:11:47											
6K0 906 032 AA 		1.8L 20VT EU3       0002													
															
	Group A:	'003				Group B:	'115				Group C:	'118			
		RPM	Mass Flow	Load	Ign. Timing		RPM	Load	Absolute Pres.	Absolute Pres.		RPM	Temperature	Load	Absolute Pres.
	TIME					TIME					TIME				
MARKER	STAMP	 /min	 g/s	%	 °BTDC	STAMP	 /min	%	 mbar	 mbar	STAMP	 /min	°C	%	 mbar
	0	840	3.36	1.2	1.5	0.37	840	20.3	980	1010	0.77	840	32	0	1010
	1.17	840	3.22	1.2	0.8	1.57	840	20.3	980	1010	1.97	840	32	0	1010
	2.37	840	3.33	1.2	0	2.77	800	21.1	980	1010	3.17	840	32	0	1010
	3.57	840	3.33	1.2	2.3	3.97	840	21.1	980	1010	4.37	840	32	0	1010
	4.77	840	3.28	1.2	0	5.17	920	18.8	980	1010	5.57	1040	32	0	1010
	5.97	1200	5.33	3.5	27	6.37	1400	41.4	980	1000	6.77	2160	32	41.2	1010
	7.17	2480	38.75	22	4.5	7.57	2440	72.9	980	1290	7.97	2440	30	0	1300
	8.37	2280	31.53	16.5	15	8.77	2680	71.4	1090	1290	9.18	3280	29	1.2	1350
	9.68	3960	75.81	41.2	3.8	10.19	4600	96.2	1320	1320	10.59	5080	28	5.1	1300
	20.67	840	2.89	0.8	7.5	21.18	840	17.3	980	1010	21.58	840	33	0	1010
	21.98	840	3.11	1.2	9	22.38	840	18	980	1010	22.78	840	33	0	1010
	23.18	840	2.97	1.2	5.3	23.58	840	18	980	1010	23.98	840	33	0	1010
	24.38	840	2.97	1.2	11.3	24.78	840	18	980	1010	25.18	840	33	0	1010
	25.58	840	2.94	1.2	7.5	25.97	840	17.3	980	1010	26.37	840	33	0	1010
	129.13	840	3.06	1.2	9.8	129.52	840	18	980	1010	129.92	840	36	0	1010
	130.32	840	3.03	1.2	5.3	130.72	840	18	980	1010	131.12	880	36	0	1010
	131.52	1080	6.61	4.7	25.5	131.92	1320	48.1	980	1000	132.32	1840	36	50.6	1020
	132.72	2120	34.47	27.8	13.5	133.14	2280	87.2	1110	1240	133.52	2240	33	1.2	1340
	134.03	2600	50.75	100	13.5	134.53	3480	122.6	1790	1530	134.94	4320	32	67.5	1610
	135.34	5040	131.97	100	12.8	135.73	5560	130.8	1800	1590	136.14	6160	33	77.3	1520
	136.53	6640	148.22	100	17.3	136.93	6920	115.8	1180	1470	137.33	6560	36	0	1400
	137.74	4680	132.17	100	14.3	138.13	4720	130.1	1840	1560	138.53	5000	38	70.6	1620
	138.93	5240	132.72	100	13.5	139.34	5480	130.8	1870	1610	139.73	5680	41	74.1	1590
	140.13	5880	138.83	100	15	140.53	6080	125.6	1810	1540	140.93	6280	45	77.3	1530
	141.33	6440	148.22	99.6	13.5	141.73	6600	121.1	1740	1510	142.13	6760	48	78.8	1510
	142.53	6600	1.42	6.7	13.5	142.93	5880	7.5	980	1220	143.33	5280	45	0	1120
	143.73	4560	9.56	6.3	13.5	144.22	3800	10.5	980	1070	144.62	3200	42	0	1060
	145.02	2640	5.67	3.1	12.8	145.52	1960	11.3	980	1040	145.92	1480	41	0	1030
	146.32	1240	3.67	2	16.5	146.72	1120	14.3	980	1020	147.12	960	40	0	1020
	147.52	880	3.14	1.2	14.3	147.92	840	18	980	1010	148.43	840	40	0	1010
	148.83	840	3.03	1.2	3	149.23	840	18	980	1010	149.63	880	39	0	1010
	150.03	840	2.94	1.2	9	150.43	840	18	980	1010	150.83	840	39	0	1010
	151.23	840	2.83	1.2	7.5	151.63	840	17.3	980	1010	152.03	840	39	0	1010
	152.43	840	2.92	1.2	5.3	152.83	840	17.3	980	1010	153.23	840	39	0	1010
	153.63	840	2.86	1.2	9	154.03	840	17.3	980	1010	154.41	840	39	0	1010
	154.81	840	2.86	1.2	8.3	155.21	840	17.3	980	1010	155.61	840	39	0	1010
	156.01	840	2.94	1.2	5.3	156.41	840	17.3	980	1010	156.81	840	39	0	1010

run 2 (hard to redline)

	Group A:	'003				Group B:	'115				Group C:	'118			
		RPM	Mass Flow	Load	Ign. Timing		RPM	Load	Absolute Pres.	Absolute Pres.		RPM	Temperature	Load	Absolute Pres.
	TIME					TIME					TIME				
MARKER	STAMP	 /min	 g/s	%	 °BTDC	STAMP	 /min	%	 mbar	 mbar	STAMP	 /min	°C	%	 mbar
	0.8	840	3.11	1.2	9.8	0	840	18.8	980	1010	0.4	840	46	0	1010
	2	840	3.17	1.2	4.5	1.2	840	18.8	980	1010	1.6	840	46	0	1010
	3.2	840	3.17	1.2	6.8	2.4	840	18.8	980	1010	2.8	840	46	0	1010
	4.4	960	3.53	1.6	22.5	3.6	840	18.8	980	1010	4	880	46	0	1010
	5.6	880	6.75	4.3	21	4.8	1040	18.8	980	1010	5.2	1040	46	0	1010
	6.91	760	5.31	3.9	17.3	6	720	53.4	980	1010	6.51	920	46	0	1020
	8.21	880	3.72	1.6	0.8	7.31	880	27.8	980	1020	7.8	880	45	0	1020
	9.41	840	3.28	1.2	4.5	8.6	880	19.5	980	1010	9	880	45	0	1010
	10.6	880	3.39	1.6	1.5	9.81	840	19.5	980	1010	10.2	840	46	0	1010
	11.8	840	3.5	1.6	1.5	11	840	21.8	980	1010	11.4	840	46	0	1010
	16.7	840	3.56	1.6	1.5	17.19	880	19.5	980	1010	17.59	840	46	0	1010
	17.99	880	3.06	1.2	22.5	18.39	960	16.5	980	1010	18.79	880	47	0	1010
	19.19	1040	6.97	4.7	23.3	19.59	1080	36.8	980	1010	20.11	920	47	0	1010
	20.75	840	8.89	7.1	12	21.19	1360	63.9	1010	1030	21.59	1720	46	21.6	1060
	22.11	2280	37.94	29.4	3.8	22.5	2800	88.7	1280	1290	22.9	3320	45	1.2	1340
	23.31	3880	71.97	40.8	10.5	23.7	4520	121.8	1780	1460	24.1	5160	45	74.1	1590
	24.5	5760	138.83	100	13.5	24.9	6240	122.6	1710	1510	25.3	6720	49	78	1490
	25.72	6720	2.11	7.1	23.3	26.1	5880	68.4	1860	1100	26.5	4520	50	60.8	1600
	26.9	4800	125.42	100	10.5	27.3	5080	133.1	1880	1620	27.7	5320	51	73.7	1620
	28.1	5520	133.33	99.6	12.8	28.5	5720	125.6	1930	1600	28.9	5920	54	75.7	1560
	29.3	6120	144.39	100	12	29.7	6280	121.8	1810	1540	30.1	6440	56	77.6	1530
	30.5	6640	151.36	100	12.8	30.9	6760	115.8	1770	1510	31.3	6360	57	0	1420
	31.7	5680	8.72	6.3	21.8	32.1	5040	9.8	980	1110	32.5	4400	53	0	1080
	32.9	3720	7.75	5.1	12.8	33.29	3160	10.5	980	1060	33.69	2640	51	0	1050
	108.77	3640	52.58	26.3	27.8	107.97	3160	38.3	980	1090	108.37	3320	45	0	1110
	109.97	5160	119.5	100	13.5	109.17	4080	86.5	1190	1340	109.57	4560	45	5.1	1300
	111.67	192 015 041	231 001 200	175 025 218	8415	110.37	5720	125.6	1830	1590	111.09	6240	45	76.1	1530
	121.26	1520	3.11	1.2	0.8	121.66	1480	10.5	980	1020	120.86	1520	48	0	1020
	122.46	1400	2.67	0.8	0	122.86	1360	9	980	1020	122.06	1440	48	0	1020
	123.66	1320	3.17	1.2	24	124.06	1320	12.8	980	1010	123.26	1320	48	0	1010
	124.86	1240	3.75	2	24.8	125.26	1240	14.3	980	1010	124.46	1280	48	0	1010
	126.06	1200	3.61	1.6	24.8	126.46	1160	15	980	1010	125.66	1240	48	0	1010
	127.26	1160	3.58	1.6	22.5	127.66	1160	15.8	980	1010	126.86	1160	48	0	1010

 

[Forbez]

What remap did you have mate?

The Ibiza has an active ECU, so it does adapt to your driving, and they may have meant that, but you dont say what the problem is since the remap.

 

[-pseudonymous-]

Doesn't look right at all. Who mapped it? Its only requesting 13.5psi boost max. Try logging 115 and 118 together from 2000rpm to redline.

Edit: just noticed the 118 log. Almost seems like a mapping fault to me but i could be wrong. Any fault codes?

 

[Cupra Ben]

Hi mate. Had a nosey through your previous posts cause im also in Staffordshire and I see your names Ben and you have a red Cupra just like me! Freaky eh? lol. Maybe see you around sometime!

Anyway if your mapper has got anything about him surley he'd be happy to take a look at it for you?

 

[Dan Cupra R]

as others have said, what map are you running?

 

[Pky]

Yeah, i cant knock the mapper, hes been fantastic! hes going though code etc with the programmers. I dont wanna name the co as i think this is just a hickup and i dont want him getting bad feedback!


only fault code i had was....

18010 - Power Supply Terminal 30: Voltage too Low

P1602 - 35-10 - - - Intermittent

checked fuses etc and they seem ok....

He said he did have problems writing the code through the ODB II port as it looks like the car had a REVO trial on it at some point... so he had to take the ECU out and do something.

possibly needs a reflash?

Do my boost lvls other then that look ok? i noticed that my actuall boost was a fare bit lower then the requested? N75?

 

[-pseudonymous-]

Yeah, i cant knock the mapper, hes been fantastic! hes going though code etc with the programmers. I dont wanna name the co as i think this is just a hickup and i dont want him getting bad feedback!


only fault code i had was....

18010 - Power Supply Terminal 30: Voltage too Low

P1602 - 35-10 - - - Intermittent

checked fuses etc and they seem ok....

He said he did have problems writing the code through the ODB II port as it looks like the car had a REVO trial on it at some point... so he had to take the ECU out and do something.

possibly needs a reflash?

Do my boost lvls other then that look ok? i noticed that my actuall boost was a fare bit lower then the requested? N75?

Yeh thats fair enough. Boost levels do look low though, on revo and others you see around the 2400mbar (20psi) mark.

Your wastegate reading on block 118 do look a bit jumpy which could point to a dodgy N75. Have you tried resetting the ECU and doing a throttle body alignment? How did the car run before the remap? Does seem like a software error to me though.

 

[Pky]

howd i do the throttle body allignment?

I'ld say the car seels no different now then before (part from i rev to 7,000 RPM now, not 6,500)

Thanks for ur help ppls!

 

[-pseudonymous-]

You should feel a big difference from a remap to be honest. Your best off disconnecting the battery for 20 mins to reset the ecu, then open the bonnet and turn on the ignition. Listen for a clicking sound then a faint buzzing noise from the throttle body. When the buzzing has stopped the throttle body alignment is complete. Only do this when the car is stone cold though.

You can also do this using block 060 in basic settings. http://www.ross-tech.com/vag-com/cars/throttlebody.html

Clear all fault codes and do another log of blocks 115 and 118 afterwards. You can also log 020 for timing pull. If nothings improved then it might be worth letting your mapper have another butchers at it as im pretty sure its down to the mapping as your requested boost is pretty low.

 

[Dan Cupra R]

I dont wanna name the co as i think this is just a hickup and i dont want him getting bad feedback!

Its not a case of giving bad feedback, but people who have the same map as you might of had the same problems in the past so could help.

Foe example when I first got my car mapped the car had problems. Turned out to be a mixture of the map not being 100% and some dodgy hoses.

A phone call to the mapper and job done, I was booked in and re re-mapped again. Now the car is fantastic.


we've all been there at somepoint mate

 

[Pky]

Spoken to the mapper, got a few things to try... thx for comments ppls