Leonidas
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This would sell the Cupra for me .. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKtswUgvhdU
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and if you start getting board of the power, the tdi will be more tunable then the 182 unless you wan to spend silly money
I wouldn't enjoy my Clio for town driving. Lots better on A roads - far more suited to that than city sprawl (heavy clutch)
I'd say a Cupra TDI would suck in town as well, the laggier turbo compared to an FR, but also the stupidly stiff ride.
For outright fun, the Clio will win every day.... that you're not in a city
I'd say a Cupra TDI would suck in town as well, the laggier turbo compared to an FR, but also the stupidly stiff ride.
For outright fun, the Clio will win every day.... that you're not in a city
mada88
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Thanks for the advice fella's much apreciated. So would the cupras laggy turbo make it slow in the stop start of town driving? Does the cupra need long straights like on a roads to show its speed? Personally I wouldn't mind a heavy clutch as I don't like the light one I have now. It would probably be cheaper to buy a clio 182 compared the price of a decent low mileage cupra.
Stop Start round town would do your head in... 0-20mph is not what it's for.. it's not slow round town, but it will always be better once it has some speed on it's side & you have some boost.
It's not like the Cupra doesn't move below 2000rpm. It will be fine in a stop start scenario, as will the 182. Why do you need to be fast in heavy traffic? Surely you'll be at the mercy of the other traffic? A 1.2 will be good enough for town traffic!
I've got a Cupra and do a 70 mile commute every day in central london, i don't find the clutch heavy or the turbo laggy but what is awful is the ride quality its driving me insane
its as high as a 4x4 but is so stiff you have to go over speed humps at 2mph.
But get it on a decent road and it goes like stink, i out paced a Focus ST round the lanes this moring
I really should have bought an FR but could see myself having to upgrade the FMIC and Brakes which would cost as much as buying the Cupra in the first place.
its as high as a 4x4 but is so stiff you have to go over speed humps at 2mph.But get it on a decent road and it goes like stink, i out paced a Focus ST round the lanes this moring
I really should have bought an FR but could see myself having to upgrade the FMIC and Brakes which would cost as much as buying the Cupra in the first place.
At the end of the day your always going to have totaly diferent opinions when two total oposite cars are mentioned.....
best bet is to have a go in either of the cars....!
the cupra is a fantastic car and will outrun alot of other road users with little effort !
personaly the suspension isn't really an issue with me and mine is lowerd on coilovers, and i live in the countryside on little back roads.....but it's only really a fun car for me and not used for work or comuting very often !
best bet is to have a go in either of the cars....!
the cupra is a fantastic car and will outrun alot of other road users with little effort !
personaly the suspension isn't really an issue with me and mine is lowerd on coilovers, and i live in the countryside on little back roads.....but it's only really a fun car for me and not used for work or comuting very often !
mada88
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It takes a bit for the cupra to catch up and then its bye bye clio. But round town etc its more like straight then a round a bout then corners then straights. So a clio would probs be faster.
I should of said I want a fast car not just for town driving. A lot of A-B roads aswell. An fr would be cheaper but wouldnt be as fast as the two.
I should of said I want a fast car not just for town driving. A lot of A-B roads aswell. An fr would be cheaper but wouldnt be as fast as the two.
LOL, reckon my 20% weight saving over a Cupra TDI says otherwise.
Do this (well, drive both) - they're both good cars, and will both test drive very well on the typical dealer dual carriageway up & down blasts. So find typical roads that you will drive on
Personally I don't think either car suits town driving!
And before people blast me (I've driven both extensively)
The Clio is a great hatch. You should be able to pick up one fairly cheap these days but the Cupra can be fettled with fairly easily, making it a very quick car. That takes nothing away from the fun factor - a less powered Clio will be just as much fun.
I used to own a 172 Cup - that was fun but I didn't reall y ever hammer it around town. The Clio isn't that fast in a straight line.
mada88
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Its not that easy to find a cupra near me there all miles away im guna test drive a clio 182 next week. The interior on the clio is total whack and i've only sat in an fr and that felt cheap and dark though it felt better than the clio. Though tbh a fiesta st interior is sooo much better than both the clio and ibiza its just a shame the performance is to slow. By town driving i dont mean like inner city contantly stuck in traffic jams its like 30-40 50+ at times stopping and starting for mainly traffic lights/round a bouts some corners etc.
I'll probably f**k the ibiza and clio off and get an st fiesta. But i'd just be pissed thats it too slow.
Get and fr tdi and get it re-mapped, sorted, quick as them both easily and allot cheaper on insurance etc. Or if your considering a petrol car and mpg doesnt matter get a 1.8t cupra id say.
Personally I think TDIs are great for stop-start driving if you're often sat in queues edging forward, as you can move off each time just by lifting the clutch, no revs needed like you'd need to in a petrol. They are quite hard to stall.
If that's where you're going to spend most of the time though, a Cupra TDI would seem a bit of a waste...
If that's where you're going to spend most of the time though, a Cupra TDI would seem a bit of a waste...
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