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Seat Sport Cupra brake caliper info

k123

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Just done brakes all round...one awful ordeal that took the ENTIRE weekend. Writeup and pics to follow...

But for now...

Pads EBC Red Stuff:
Fronts: DP3036C £79.99 For cars with AP Calipers
Rears: DP3680C £40.07

Discs
D930 £69.08 312mm EBC Standard discs
D816 £32.86

Then AP Pins £1.84
Bleed screws £2 each
Bleed screw rubber cap 98p each
Or something like that anyway...


All in for £240 quid or so I guess. It hurts but I'd rather not have left it with SEAT, or a local garage who would have got in a mess and called me to explain! :wtf:
 

k123

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I finally got them finished but my hands are still buzzing from wielding a 3kg lump hammer for a weekend!

First off, you'll need a 4mm punch. The Facom one won't do..it's too long and I bent one very quickly. It needs to be only a couple of inches long.
The longer punch is good for once you have it moving and pushing the pin through some more.

Read all the posts and get yourself some supplies in. Pins are a definite MUST have.

Photo for identification:


Undo the bridge bolts with a hex socket.

Then start on the pins, knocking them out from the narrow end of the pin / outside edge of the caliper.

I got 1 out of the 4 to come out like this.....even though I'd taken the Caliper off the car and had it on the bench/floor!
So got the hacksaw out...



Using a full hacksaw and just the blade (no handle) I found I could cut the pins into several sections to remove the pads or disc etc to get the Caliper removed from the car.

I could then attack the pins from the outside of the caliper, managing to get the narrow ends pushed through eventually.

The other end I was knocking into the middle of the Caliper without much luck.
I then needed to drill these out. using a 4, maybe 5mm drill bit it made a surprisingly easy job, even with a basic power drill. It seemed to follow the pin and leave the soft Aluminium caliper alone!
I was able to drill right through the centre, and then clobber the remaining outer rim of the pin with a 6 or 7mm punch, folding the metal in on it's self and out of the other end.

Finally, they're in pieces! :clap:

Now the corrosion.....
My pads wouldn't fit and by removing the shims which the pads run on it was clear to see there was more corrosion there.
The white stuff isn't good



You can see from this photo how the metal shims rise up as they go into the corner.....not good for getting the pads to fit!





Got there in the end but it was a couple of days job and MUCH MUCH more difficult than I expected :-o


Old bits left over....in desperate need of replacement!

 
Apr 13, 2011
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hull
This is a usefull thread for anyone with a mk4 Cupra or mk5

Would it be possible to post up the part numbers of the. Items advised to buy when about to change brake pads ie

Retaining bolt
Pads
And anything else that commanly seizes and u end up needing when doing what should be just a simple brake pad change :)

Cheers
 

titanium4d

Active Member
Apr 26, 2013
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I'll be doing mine in the next week or so , will make sure I get new fitting kits :) , ill be changing the brake hoses for steel braided ones and dot5.1 so good to know the proper torque settings , thanks :)
 

Crumpyz

Active Member
Jul 5, 2012
130
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Basingstoke
Hey all I contacted AP not that long ago as I wanted to find out the torque settings and any retaining compound used as I am currently overhauling mine (didn't realize this post existed) :) They were brilliant and could not have been more helpful!

AP gave me different torque figures to the ones listed, so I thought I would share.

Caliper part numbers:- CP6607-8S0:SEA & CP6607-9S0:SEA

Retaining compound:- Loctite 620

This is actually a high temperature cylindrical retaining loctite used in assemblies...but AP obviously use it for bolts because of how it cures and it having a very high temperature resistance!

It is also near £30 for a 10ml bottle in the UK & delivery (which is very hard to locate, it seems to be easier to buy it from the US in 10ml form, but import charges will kill you, this company sells it http://www.midwayuk.com/Loctite-620-Retaining-Compound-10-ml) So as you can see it is worth its weight in gold...I was lucky as my work use it :)

NOTE:- !DO NOT LOCTITE M8 PAD RETAINING BOLTS AS THEY SCREW INTO A HELICOIL INSERT! Next time you would go to take them out you would most probably pull the helicoil insert out as well, which is a whole world of crap.

Torque Settings:-

• Caliper Mounting screws M12 = 68Nm
• Bridge bolts M10 = 68Nm
• Pad Retaining bolts M8 = 24Nm
• Wear Plate screws = 6Nm
• Bleed screws = 10Nm

It is key to remember that some of the screws/bolts are straight into cast ally (or billet not sure how the calipers are made), to which threads strip very easily, but can be saved by an insert tap and helicoil insert!

Hope that helps!
 
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mjstokes85

Diesel Power
Nov 14, 2005
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I have been in touch with AP racing to try and blag some free pins etc. Unfortunately they won't send me anything free, BUT they have given me all the correct part numbers for the pins etc

Dear Sir


Caliper # CP6607-8S0:SEA & CP6607-9S0:SEA


AP Racing does supply Seat with pad pin kits , but if you don’t have a local Seat dealership close by or they are unable to obtain them for you, then you can order pins from one of our official distributors listed on:- www.apracing.com

If you are based in the UK try Circuit Supplies, they hold these pins in stock.


Pad retainer Pin # CP7600-109 (95mm long)

Pad anti-rattle clip # CP6607-124


(When refitting the pins smear the split collet with a light film of copper slip, that will help to reduce the effects of road salt corroding the steel collet into the alloy caliper body).


The disc and pads are Seat parts, but if you wish to improve the braking and also reduce pedal travel then change the pads to Ferodo DS2500: - APR pad set part # CP6600D50-DS2500. Circuit Supplies can supply these as well.


Regards


Peter Collen


I have emailed Circuit Supplies http://www.circuitsupplies.com/ap.htm and asked for a price on the anti rattle clips. The correct pins can be bought here - http://www.part-box.com/product_info...ducts_id=36555
 

Mr. F

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What are the SEAT part numbers for the Calipers etc? Can't find it anywhere (somehow) and my garage needs them!
 

Crumpyz

Active Member
Jul 5, 2012
130
1
Basingstoke
Caliper part numbers:-CP6607-8S0:SEA & CP6607-9S0:SEA
They are as above mate. If you read through the thread they are mentioned a few times.

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Mr. F

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No seat actual part numbers btw as it is an AP racing part supplied to seat.

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I see, thanks for the info, need to have a word with my mechanic then, appears the problem is him :think:
 

Crumpyz

Active Member
Jul 5, 2012
130
1
Basingstoke
No prob :) haha.

You can buy the calipers and parts through seat I believe but will probably cost you a leg and maybe part of your arm.

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rsshawn

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Apr 29, 2010
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If you are based in the UK try Circuit Supplies, they hold these pins in stock.

Pad retainer Pin # CP7600-109 (95mm long)

Pad anti-rattle clip # CP6607-124
Just wanted to re-up this incase anyone is doing this soon.
Circuit Supplies still have these. The pins are £1.20-ish and the clips are a little over £3 each.
I haven't done mine yet, just collecting spares incase they are required. :whistle:
 
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