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SW update for MIB2 infotainment system?

Slickric21

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I had my car in for its first year service last month, asked them to update my unit from 0514 to 0515 whilst they had it due to general instability of apple Carplay.
They found the 0515 on the TPI update server but told me Seat haven’t made it available for them to download yet and they would contact me when they can ???

Anyway I have since had it updated to 0515 by East York’s Retrofits on Facebook for a very good price.
You have to go to the guy or send you unit from glove box though and he does it for you and sends back.
Great service.

0515 does seem more stable for CarPlay and it also solved a major annoyance on 0514.... NO MORE WHITE PIXEL on the Cupra boot up screen !!!!!!
 
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Walone said:
I updated the firmware/software in several stages (MIB2 High) with files sold to me on eBay, all went well but I had to re-enable Mirrorlink, Carplay and Android Auto using VCDS. You must make sure that the power supply is not interrupted so battery must be in good condition and fully charged or connected to charger.
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I think the standard firmware may be free but you have to look for that. Anybody also had to use VCDS tools on their standard upgrades. I know Walone did on his high unit. Thinking about it, it must be that you have the FeC license for those but you have to toggle the settings back on as Walone said. Really need. Like TMC... think you for got to mention that ;).

If you go to a retrofitter you draw up a piece of paper with what to check before leaving.... used Walones notes :). TSR is another one to add if you have it. That one caused me grief.
 
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Tell said:
I think the standard firmware may be free but you have to look for that. Anybody also had to use VCDS tools on their standard upgrades. I know Walone did on his high unit. Thinking about it, it must be that you have the FeC license for those but you have to toggle the settings back on as Walone said. Really need. Like TMC... think you for got to mention that ;).

If you go to a retrofitter you draw up a piece of paper with what to check before leaving.... used Walones notes :). TSR is another one to add if you have it. That one caused me grief.
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Yes Tell, the TMC was another one.
 
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Slickric21 said:
I had my car in for its first year service last month, asked them to update my unit from 0514 to 0515 whilst they had it due to general instability of apple Carplay.
They found the 0515 on the TPI update server but told me Seat haven’t made it available for them to download yet and they would contact me when they can ???

Anyway I have since had it updated to 0515 by East York’s Retrofits on Facebook for a very good price.
You have to go to the guy or send you unit from glove box though and he does it for you and sends back.
Great service.

0515 does seem more stable for CarPlay and it also solved a major annoyance on 0514.... NO MORE WHITE PIXEL on the Cupra boot up screen !!!!!!
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I wonder whether there is a relationship between East York’s Retrofits and Vagtec, the latter decanted their operations to Doncaster.... it will become clear one day. Was it a Doncaster address.
 
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Walone said:
No relationship I am sure, the guy at East Yorkshire Retrofit Solutions is Kieran Walkington.
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Oh yes different name, Blaze is the one I'm thinking of. It's one half of the Polish operation that operates out of Doncaster, the other half operates out of Poland on remote screens once they moved out of Croydon. Yorkshire must now be a hot bed of retrofitters :).
 
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Slickric21 said:
All I know is the East York’s retrofit guy is top notch. Great bloke and very professional.
Got my eye on ACC and HBA at some point in the future from him
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Having the seat sound system retrofitted by him using I assume vag can pro soon. He's done a lot of work for others so looking good.
 
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Just been talking to him too this evening. Seems a very nice guy, helpful and happy to answer questions.
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Only negative of these retrofits is if Seat plug into the car and do a SVM update it'll notice that the configuration mismatches with the factory held data and reset any retrofits. Just something to make sure Seat don't do if you use the dealership in future :)
 

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Steve J said:
Only negative of these retrofits is if Seat plug into the car and do a SVM update it'll notice that the configuration mismatches with the factory held data and reset any retrofits. Just something to make sure Seat don't do if you use the dealership in future :)
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Aren't you just the picture of joy and happiness! 😉 Just kidding you, good point though. OK so you've got me on this one, what is an svm update? And by reseting retrofits do you mean if I have configurations unlocked that weren't original? As they won't upgrade the firmware of the infotainment system to a newer version it seems a bit harsh that they might bother downgrading it back to factory. I'd be interested to hear what people's experience of this is, would seat care? I have a service plan so it's got 3 years off dealership visits.
 

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Aren't you just the picture of joy and happiness! Just kidding you, good point though. OK so you've got me on this one, what is an svm update? And by reseting retrofits do you mean if I have configurations unlocked that weren't original? As they won't upgrade the firmware of the infotainment system to a newer version it seems a bit harsh that they might bother downgrading it back to factory. I'd be interested to hear what people's experience of this is, would seat care? I have a service plan so it's got 3 years off dealership visits.
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The dealership does not know how to downgrade firmware:)

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Pmac2k said:
Aren't you just the picture of joy and happiness! 😉 Just kidding you, good point though. OK so you've got me on this one, what is an svm update? And by reseting retrofits do you mean if I have configurations unlocked that weren't original? As they won't upgrade the firmware of the infotainment system to a newer version it seems a bit harsh that they might bother downgrading it back to factory. I'd be interested to hear what people's experience of this is, would seat care? I have a service plan so it's got 3 years off dealership visits.
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Just thought I'd mention it. It's nothing to worry about and extremely unlikely to happen. It's a software version management update. It's if something went wrong and they reset everything back to factory settings for your car. The file stored online wouldn't have the retrofits as part of it. But anyway still enjoy them it's really cool you can add stuff. He's a great person and I wish I knew more to research into how it's done and play around with a unit outside of a car :)
 
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SVM = software version management. A trumpet can be set in the unit to say it's been messed with. You can reset the flag via a convoluted process that sometimes works. Works on the high, had less success on the standard.

Generally thought that dealers aren't bothered with SVM errors but obviously if there is a firmware update that is rolled out it will wipe out any specific firmware that you have. My experience when I first messed up the high units maps in my backend experiments is the dealer mechanics don't have a clue on the software front. They told me they phone a central number and are told what to do on ODIS. Front desk said re-install the map with the SD card (which I didn't have). That bit was right.... don't think they had the card either. Was told I had the most up-to-date maps by Seat Customer Services - wrong. Booked in for an appointment but sorted it out myself... learning curve.

I think it's really the FeCs that are the issue. If a retrofitter changes these to give additional functionality and they get reset back to what the car was shipped with then issues. Some retrofitters go into ODIS. Not sure whether that changes the blue print record or not, if it does, that's good. Some retrofitters don't have ODIS which can limit what they can do. One told me that, so they couldn't do what I wanted. All those infotainment units sold on as retrofits will have had their FeCs changed for sure or a large proportion of them. I think the bottom line is dealers wont make work for themselves in something they dont understand. Not a good dealer at least.
 
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Tell said:
SVM = software version management. A trumpet can be set in the unit to say it's been messed with. You can reset the flag via a convoluted process that sometimes works. Works on the high, had less success on the standard.

Generally thought that dealers aren't bothered with SVM errors but obviously if there is a firmware update that is rolled out it will wipe out any specific firmware that you have. My experience when I first messed up the high units maps in my backend experiments is the dealer mechanics don't have a clue on the software front. They told me they phone a central number and are told what to do on ODIS. Front desk said re-install the map with the SD card (which I didn't have). That bit was right.... don't think they had the card either. Was told I had the most up-to-date maps by Seat Customer Services - wrong. Booked in for an appointment but sorted it out myself... learning curve.

I think it's really the FeCs that are the issue. If a retrofitter changes these to give additional functionality and they get reset back to what the car was shipped with then issues. Some retrofitters go into ODIS. Not sure whether that changes the blue print record or not, if it does, that's good. Some retrofitters don't have ODIS which can limit what they can do. One told me that, so they couldn't do what I wanted. All those infotainment units sold on as retrofits will have had their FeCs changed for sure or a large proportion of them. I think the bottom line is dealers wont make work for themselves in something they dont understand. Not a good dealer at least.
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Thanks for clearing it up. It's useful to read this. I'm still learning about all of these retrofits but it's extremely interesting, especially to read what Dealers use etc
 
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I've been talking to Kieran about upgrading my H24 SW 0245 to SW 0475, and getting the Sports dials added as well.
 
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